[governance] Call for Action: Your comments can Support

Robin Gross robin at ipjustice.org
Wed Mar 25 13:11:25 EDT 2009


I agree with Milton and Bill and see no reason why McTim would not  
qualify as an individual member based on those affiliations (except  
of course if he works for a RIR).

I'll forward the the application to the NCUC Executive Committee, so  
it should be approved within a few days.

Thanks, McTim, for submitting the membership application!

NCUC is not a life-time commitment, and we will happily accept  
whatever amount of energy you've got to spare, even small amounts are  
very welcome.

There is also a web-form membership application so people can fill- 
out the membership application and apply via the web:
     https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform? 
hl=en&formkey=cElmeG5pOWZ6dmxoVVAwMEItTjZ2TWc6MA

Thanks again!
Robin



On Mar 25, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:

>
> I would say that unless McT is the organizational representative of  
> an RIR member, or works for an RIR, he would be eligible for NCSG  
> under the individual membership category.
>
> Recently, our eligibility requirements were clarified specifically  
> so as to NOT exclude anyone in a RALO or ALAC. Also, it is not  
> mailing list membership that matters, but some kind of formal  
> membership in an ICANN S.O. or constituency.
>
> Keep in mind that the competing NCSG proposal has the same  
> eligibility requirements. The difference is that it fragments  
> people into different constituencies that compete for Council  
> seats. So in that sense I still think you'd be better off  
> supporting our proposal.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 4:17 AM
>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; McTim
>> Cc: Robin Gross
>> Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Action: Your comments can Support
>>
>> McT
>>>
>>> In the interests of full disclosure, I am on a number of ICANN  
>>> mailing
>>> lists already, including At-Large, AfRALO, and AfrICANN, although  
>>> I am
>>> not a member of a RALO (as far as I know).  In addition, I am active
>>> in various IETF and RIR policy fora, volunteer occasionally for
>>> AfriNIC events and sometimes get paid to give advice and training to
>>> ISPs who are also LIRs.
>>
>>>
>>> Does this make me "represented in ICANN through  membership in  
>>> another
>>> Supporting Organization"  ??
>>>
>>> I just don't know.  If someone wanted to keep me off the NCSG, they
>>> could claim I was represented by the ASO, which wouldn't be entirely
>>> untrue, but wouldn't be entirely accurate either.
>>
>> GNSO has a constituency representation system that's unique now and
>> will remain so after restructuring.  In the GNSO context it's pretty
>> clear if you are a "member" elsewhere who's "represented."  The other
>> ASOs are different.  You're not on the Address Council and I assume
>> you're not on the ccNSO.  Being on open to all mailing lists that
>> provide input to these would not constitute being a represented
>> member, at least my understanding.  Maybe someone else from NCUC  
>> has a
>> different and more restrictive view, in which case you'd be right  
>> that
>> the language on this point could use further clarification.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
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