[governance] Proposed statement on .ORG sale

Sylvain Baya (via governance Mailing List) governance at lists.riseup.net
Mon Dec 23 12:06:40 EST 2019


Hi all,

Please see my comments below (inline)...

Le lun. 23 déc. 2019 2:31 PM, Carlos Afonso <governance at lists.riseup.net> a
écrit :

> Eheheh... Parminder never quits... :-)
>
> Have you noticed that ISOC is not a registry, that its mission is
> orthogonal to this activity, and that they created a registry to catch an
> opportunity for the purpose of generating income for the organization (and
> I am not against this)?


Dear Carlos,

“*[...] they created a registry to catch an opportunity for the purpose of
generating income for the organization [...]*”

Are you sure ?
...please provide an evidence :-/

Have you noticed that the main mission of CGI.br is to supervise the
> Brazilian registry, and this is the original reason for its creation?
>
> Have you noticed that the Brazilian registry is a not-for-profit operation
> in which the Brazilian .org is completely restricted, contrary to .ORG
> which since Verisign times was like any other gTLD, and continued to be so
> under ISOC?
>

...please, let me know when you will try to sell the .BR registry to a
for-profit company.

If you are able to navigate through the several CGIbr-linked sites, have
> you noticed that the excess income of the registry operation is not to
> "sustain CGI.br", but to invest in the development of several services and
> projects crucial to the development of the Internet in Brazil as a whole?
>

...good ! like <afnic.fr> ?

And yes, CGI.br regards .br as the identity of Brazil on the Internet, and
> as a common good for Brazilians, and acts likewise. Completely different of
> .ORG, which is looked at by different organizations as a common good but
> objectively does not operate as such, I repeat, since the beginning of its
> commercial operation.
>

Have you read this [1] ?
...don't forget that .ORG is/was a legacy TLD.

I don't know if you remember that some of the ccTLDs were managed by
foreign businessmen without the knowledge of the national Internet
Communities....

...if i got you well, then those ccTLDs are also differents to the brTLD,
and those should be freely sold as .ORG to back to their first for-profit
managers.

...i may be wrong though, then please correct me :-/

You are shooting the completely wrong target, my friend...
>

...brother, it seems as you are the one :-/
But, again, i may be wrong !

Thanks.

Happy & Blessed monday !

Shalom,
--sb.


> fraternal regards
>
> --c.a.
>
> On 23/12/2019 01:32, parminder wrote:
> > [...]
> --
>
> Carlos A. Afonso
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> [emails are personal unless explicitly indicated otherwise]
>
> Instituto Nupef - https://nupef.org.br
> ISOC-BR - https://isoc.org.br
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