<div dir="auto"><div>Hi all,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Please see my comments below (inline)...<br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le lun. 23 déc. 2019 2:31 PM, Carlos Afonso <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Eheheh... Parminder never quits... :-)<br>
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Have you noticed that ISOC is not a registry, that its mission is orthogonal to this activity, and that they created a registry to catch an opportunity for the purpose of generating income for the organization (and I am not against this)? </blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Dear Carlos,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">“<i>[...] <span style="font-family:sans-serif">they created a registry to catch an opportunity for the purpose of generating income for the organization</span> [...]</i>”</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Are you sure ? </div><div dir="auto">...please provide an evidence :-/</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Have you noticed that the main mission of CGI.br is to supervise the Brazilian registry, and this is the original reason for its creation?<br>
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Have you noticed that the Brazilian registry is a not-for-profit operation in which the Brazilian .org is completely restricted, contrary to .ORG which since Verisign times was like any other gTLD, and continued to be so under ISOC?<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...please, let me know when you will try to sell the .BR registry to a for-profit company.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">If you are able to navigate through the several CGIbr-linked sites, have you noticed that the excess income of the registry operation is not to "sustain CGI.br", but to invest in the development of several services and projects crucial to the development of the Internet in Brazil as a whole?<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...good ! like <<a href="http://afnic.fr" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">afnic.fr</a>> ?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">And yes, CGI.br regards .br as the identity of Brazil on the Internet, and as a common good for Brazilians, and acts likewise. Completely different of .ORG, which is looked at by different organizations as a common good but objectively does not operate as such, I repeat, since the beginning of its commercial operation.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Have you read this [1] ?</div><div dir="auto">...don't forget that .ORG is/was a legacy TLD.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I don't know if you remember that some of the ccTLDs were managed by foreign businessmen without the knowledge of the national Internet Communities....</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...if i got you well, then those ccTLDs are also differents to the brTLD, and those should be freely sold as .ORG to back to their first for-profit managers. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...i may be wrong though, then please correct me :-/</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">You are shooting the completely wrong target, my friend...<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...brother, it seems as you are the one :-/</div><div dir="auto">But, again, i may be wrong !</div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">Thanks.</span></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif">Happy & Blessed monday !</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif">Shalom,</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif">--sb.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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fraternal regards<br>
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--c.a.<br>
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