[governance] Proposed statement on .ORG sale

[Carlos Afonso (via governance Mailing List)]

Sylvain, I will only respond to this phrase of yours, as the rest has already been dealt with in my earlier message:

"...please, let me know when you will try to sell the .BR registry to a for-profit company."

Interesting that you think I have this kind of power :-)

[] fraterno

--c.a.

On 23/12/2019 14:06, Sylvain Baya (via governance Mailing List) wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Please see my comments below (inline)...
> 
> Le lun. 23 déc. 2019 2:31 PM, Carlos Afonso <governance at lists.riseup.net <mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>> a écrit :
> 
>     Eheheh... Parminder never quits... :-)
> 
>     Have you noticed that ISOC is not a registry, that its mission is orthogonal to this activity, and that they created a registry to catch an opportunity for the purpose of generating income for the organization (and I am not against this)? 
> 
> 
> Dear Carlos,
> 
> “/[...] they created a registry to catch an opportunity for the purpose of generating income for the organization [...]/”
> 
> Are you sure ? 
> ...please provide an evidence :-/
> 
>     Have you noticed that the main mission of CGI.br is to supervise the Brazilian registry, and this is the original reason for its creation?
> 
>     Have you noticed that the Brazilian registry is a not-for-profit operation in which the Brazilian .org is completely restricted, contrary to .ORG which since Verisign times was like any other gTLD, and continued to be so under ISOC?
> 
> 
> ...please, let me know when you will try to sell the .BR registry to a for-profit company.
> 
>     If you are able to navigate through the several CGIbr-linked sites, have you noticed that the excess income of the registry operation is not to "sustain CGI.br", but to invest in the development of several services and projects crucial to the development of the Internet in Brazil as a whole?
> 
> 
> ...good ! like <afnic.fr <http://afnic.fr>> ?
> 
>     And yes, CGI.br regards .br as the identity of Brazil on the Internet, and as a common good for Brazilians, and acts likewise. Completely different of .ORG, which is looked at by different organizations as a common good but objectively does not operate as such, I repeat, since the beginning of its commercial operation.
> 
> 
> Have you read this [1] ?
> ...don't forget that .ORG is/was a legacy TLD.
> 
> I don't know if you remember that some of the ccTLDs were managed by foreign businessmen without the knowledge of the national Internet Communities....
> 
> ...if i got you well, then those ccTLDs are also differents to the brTLD, and those should be freely sold as .ORG to back to their first for-profit managers. 
> 
> ...i may be wrong though, then please correct me :-/
> 
>     You are shooting the completely wrong target, my friend...
> 
> 
> ...brother, it seems as you are the one :-/
> But, again, i may be wrong !
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Happy & Blessed monday !
> 
> Shalom,
> --sb.
> 
> 
>     fraternal regards
> 
>     --c.a.
> 
>     On 23/12/2019 01:32, parminder wrote:
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