[governance] Proposed statement on .ORG sale

[Sylvain Baya (via governance Mailing List)]

Hi all,

Le lun. 23 déc. 2019 6:43 PM, Carlos Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> a écrit :

> Sylvain, I will only respond to this phrase of yours, as the rest has
> already been dealt with in my earlier message:
>

Dear Carlos,

Thanks, but normally, if it's the one [*] i was responding to, then i can
not agree :-/
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[*]: <https://lists.riseup.net/www/arc/governance/2019-12/msg00320.html>

...if i'm wrong, please elaborate or provide the right link or text.

"...please, let me know when you will try to sell the .BR registry to a
> for-profit company."
>
> Interesting that you think I have this kind of power :-)
>

:-D
...maybe not you. Then, please let me know when it would occur ;-)

While i'm awaiting for your answers, please let me add this missing
reference in my previous email [**] :
[1]: see section D.1 & D.2 <
https://www.icann.org/melbourne/proposed-verisign-agreements-topic.htm>
<https://www.icann.org/minutes/minutes-02apr01.htm>
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[**]: <https://lists.riseup.net/www/arc/governance/2019-12/msg00324.html>

Shalom,
--sb.

[] fraterno
>
> --c.a.
>
> On 23/12/2019 14:06, Sylvain Baya (via governance Mailing List) wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Please see my comments below (inline)...
> >
> > Le lun. 23 déc. 2019 2:31 PM, Carlos Afonso <governance at lists.riseup.net
> <mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>> a écrit :
> >
> >     Eheheh... Parminder never quits... :-)
> >
> >     Have you noticed that ISOC is not a registry, that its mission is
> orthogonal to this activity, and that they created a registry to catch an
> opportunity for the purpose of generating income for the organization (and
> I am not against this)?
> >
> >
> > Dear Carlos,
> >
> > “/[...] they created a registry to catch an opportunity for the purpose
> of generating income for the organization [...]/”
> >
> > Are you sure ?
> > ...please provide an evidence :-/
> >
> >     Have you noticed that the main mission of CGI.br is to supervise the
> Brazilian registry, and this is the original reason for its creation?
> >
> >     Have you noticed that the Brazilian registry is a not-for-profit
> operation in which the Brazilian .org is completely restricted, contrary to
> .ORG which since Verisign times was like any other gTLD, and continued to
> be so under ISOC?
> >
> >
> > ...please, let me know when you will try to sell the .BR registry to a
> for-profit company.
> >
> >     If you are able to navigate through the several CGIbr-linked sites,
> have you noticed that the excess income of the registry operation is not to
> "sustain CGI.br", but to invest in the development of several services and
> projects crucial to the development of the Internet in Brazil as a whole?
> >
> >
> > ...good ! like <afnic.fr <http://afnic.fr>> ?
> >
> >     And yes, CGI.br regards .br as the identity of Brazil on the
> Internet, and as a common good for Brazilians, and acts likewise.
> Completely different of .ORG, which is looked at by different organizations
> as a common good but objectively does not operate as such, I repeat, since
> the beginning of its commercial operation.
> >
> >
> > Have you read this [1] ?
> > ...don't forget that .ORG is/was a legacy TLD.
> >
> > I don't know if you remember that some of the ccTLDs were managed by
> foreign businessmen without the knowledge of the national Internet
> Communities....
> >
> > ...if i got you well, then those ccTLDs are also differents to the
> brTLD, and those should be freely sold as .ORG to back to their first
> for-profit managers.
> >
> > ...i may be wrong though, then please correct me :-/
> >
> >     You are shooting the completely wrong target, my friend...
> >
> >
> > ...brother, it seems as you are the one :-/
> > But, again, i may be wrong !
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Happy & Blessed monday !
> >
> > Shalom,
> > --sb.
> >
> >
> >     fraternal regards
> >
> >     --c.a.
> >
> >     On 23/12/2019 01:32, parminder wrote:
> >     > [...]
> >
> --
>
> Carlos A. Afonso
> [emails são pessoais exceto quando explicitamente indicado em contrário]
> [emails are personal unless explicitly indicated otherwise]
>
> Instituto Nupef - https://nupef.org.br
> ISOC-BR - https://isoc.org.br
>
>

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