[governance] US to impose sanctions on foreign cyber attackers
Jean-Louis FULLSACK
jlfullsack at orange.fr
Tue Apr 7 10:11:12 EDT 2015
dear Willy
You can't ignore that France's oprator was less "supid" than all others (....) since France Télécom has got the first (full-)digital network : both transport and switching were digitized by the eighties.
best
Jean-Louis fullsack
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> Dear Jefsey.
>
> "that will allow to complete the second phase of Vint Cerf's IEN 48
> project of 1978"
>
> What is this "second phase"? We know, in this time the transport systems
> was analogous based on many different technical implementations.
> Therefore, the first step was to bring the different network
> technologies together. This was a result of the stupid telecommunication
> companies. You know it from France.
>
> many greetings, willi
> Iquique, Chile
>
>
> Am 04-04-2015 um 7:37 schrieb Jefsey:
> > At 00:28 04/04/2015, Fouad Bajwa wrote:
> >> But this should be a larger debate beyond the remit of nation states
> >> that involves the broader civil society and other stakeholders. These
> >> technologies did not just appear on their own, they were developed by
> >> individuals, groups, communities and companies and so forth. Why are
> >> we so afraid to create a discourse and bridge the gaps opposed to the
> >> propaganda? Why not raise and argue at the IGF and regional fora? Why
> >> not a dynamic coalition on the issue?
> >
> > This should. But for the time being better for me to share in the most
> > efficient part I can forster/help.
> >
> > This is why I would certainly ***welcome and support*** a dynamic
> > coalition on the issue. However, as long as I am concerned I can only
> > focus on the post-google internet practical "initem" (set of initial
> > conditions to condition or having conditionned a system), i.e. the
> > catenet's substructural (between operations and infrastructure)
> > technology that will allow to complete the second phase of Vint Cerf's
> > IEN 48 project of 1978 - of which the first phase was the present
> > internet. https://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien48.txt ("objectives" section).
> >
> > This was definitly blocked since 1985 by the NSA "status-quo" strategy
> > of architectural protection (lack of OSI Layer 6 presentation in the
> > UNIX/internet architecture). The recente "premissionless innovation" now
> > partly opens the door to that possibility; however they want to keep
> > controlling it via the "maffia type" multistakeholder pretence.
> > Technological emergence is omnistakeholder based anyway, but they will
> > keep containing it as much as they can until a full "layer-6+" has been
> > incorporated in the multiple technologies involved.
> > https://www.iab.org/2014/11/14/iab-statement-on-internet-confidentiality/
> >
> > jfc
> >
>
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