[governance] US to impose sanctions on foreign cyber attackers

León J. lowe.recursos at gmail.com
Tue Apr 7 22:33:29 EDT 2015


Where is the text of the "executive order"? anyone have a copy?

2015-04-07 11:11 GMT-03:00 Jean-Louis FULLSACK <jlfullsack at orange.fr>:

> dear Willy
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> You can't ignore that France's oprator was less "supid" than all others
> (....) since France Télécom has got the first (full-)digital network : both
> transport and switching were digitized by the eighties.
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> best
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> Jean-Louis fullsack
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> > Message du 07/04/15 16:05
> > De : "willi uebelherr" <willi.uebelherr at gmail.com>
> > A : governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> > Copie à :
> > Objet : Re: [governance] US to impose sanctions on foreign cyber
> attackers
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> > Dear Jefsey.
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> > "that will allow to complete the second phase of Vint Cerf's IEN 48
> > project of 1978"
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> > What is this "second phase"? We know, in this time the transport systems
> > was analogous based on many different technical implementations.
> > Therefore, the first step was to bring the different network
> > technologies together. This was a result of the stupid telecommunication
> > companies. You know it from France.
> >
> > many greetings, willi
> > Iquique, Chile
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> > Am 04-04-2015 um 7:37 schrieb Jefsey:
> > > At 00:28 04/04/2015, Fouad Bajwa wrote:
> > >> But this should be a larger debate beyond the remit of nation states
> > >> that involves the broader civil society and other stakeholders. These
> > >> technologies did not just appear on their own, they were developed by
> > >> individuals, groups, communities and companies and so forth. Why are
> > >> we so afraid to create a discourse and bridge the gaps opposed to the
> > >> propaganda? Why not raise and argue at the IGF and regional fora? Why
> > >> not a dynamic coalition on the issue?
> > >
> > > This should. But for the time being better for me to share in the most
> > > efficient part I can forster/help.
> > >
> > > This is why I would certainly ***welcome and support*** a dynamic
> > > coalition on the issue. However, as long as I am concerned I can only
> > > focus on the post-google internet practical "initem" (set of initial
> > > conditions to condition or having conditionned a system), i.e. the
> > > catenet's substructural (between operations and infrastructure)
> > > technology that will allow to complete the second phase of Vint Cerf's
> > > IEN 48 project of 1978 - of which the first phase was the present
> > > internet. https://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien48.txt ("objectives"
> section).
> > >
> > > This was definitly blocked since 1985 by the NSA "status-quo" strategy
> > > of architectural protection (lack of OSI Layer 6 presentation in the
> > > UNIX/internet architecture). The recente "premissionless innovation"
> now
> > > partly opens the door to that possibility; however they want to keep
> > > controlling it via the "maffia type" multistakeholder pretence.
> > > Technological emergence is omnistakeholder based anyway, but they will
> > > keep containing it as much as they can until a full "layer-6+" has been
> > > incorporated in the multiple technologies involved.
> > >
> https://www.iab.org/2014/11/14/iab-statement-on-internet-confidentiality/
> > >
> > > jfc
> > >
> >
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