<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div>Where is the text of the "executive order"? anyone have a copy?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-04-07 11:11 GMT-03:00 Jean-Louis FULLSACK <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jlfullsack@orange.fr" target="_blank">jlfullsack@orange.fr</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>dear Willy</p>
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<p>You can't ignore that France's oprator was less "supid" than all others (....) since France Télécom has got the first (full-)digital network : both transport and switching were digitized by the eighties.</p>
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<p>best</p>
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<p>Jean-Louis fullsack</p>
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<blockquote style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left:#ff0000 2px solid">> Message du 07/04/15 16:05<br>> De : "willi uebelherr" <<a href="mailto:willi.uebelherr@gmail.com" target="_blank">willi.uebelherr@gmail.com</a>><br>> A : <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>> Copie à : <br>> Objet : Re: [governance] US to impose sanctions on foreign cyber attackers<div><div class="h5"><br>> <br>> <br>> Dear Jefsey.<br>> <br>> "that will allow to complete the second phase of Vint Cerf's IEN 48 <br>> project of 1978"<br>> <br>> What is this "second phase"? We know, in this time the transport systems <br>> was analogous based on many different technical implementations. <br>> Therefore, the first step was to bring the different network <br>> technologies together. This was a result of the stupid telecommunication <br>> companies. You know it from France.<br>> <br>> many greetings, willi<br>> Iquique, Chile<br>> <br>> <br>> Am 04-04-2015 um 7:37 schrieb Jefsey:<br>> > At 00:28 04/04/2015, Fouad Bajwa wrote:<br>> >> But this should be a larger debate beyond the remit of nation states<br>> >> that involves the broader civil society and other stakeholders. These<br>> >> technologies did not just appear on their own, they were developed by<br>> >> individuals, groups, communities and companies and so forth. Why are<br>> >> we so afraid to create a discourse and bridge the gaps opposed to the<br>> >> propaganda? Why not raise and argue at the IGF and regional fora? Why<br>> >> not a dynamic coalition on the issue?<br>> ><br>> > This should. But for the time being better for me to share in the most<br>> > efficient part I can forster/help.<br>> ><br>> > This is why I would certainly ***welcome and support*** a dynamic<br>> > coalition on the issue. However, as long as I am concerned I can only<br>> > focus on the post-google internet practical "initem" (set of initial<br>> > conditions to condition or having conditionned a system), i.e. the<br>> > catenet's substructural (between operations and infrastructure)<br>> > technology that will allow to complete the second phase of Vint Cerf's<br>> > IEN 48 project of 1978 - of which the first phase was the present<br>> > internet. <a href="https://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien48.txt" target="_blank">https://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien48.txt</a> ("objectives" section).<br>> ><br>> > This was definitly blocked since 1985 by the NSA "status-quo" strategy<br>> > of architectural protection (lack of OSI Layer 6 presentation in the<br>> > UNIX/internet architecture). The recente "premissionless innovation" now<br>> > partly opens the door to that possibility; however they want to keep<br>> > controlling it via the "maffia type" multistakeholder pretence.<br>> > Technological emergence is omnistakeholder based anyway, but they will<br>> > keep containing it as much as they can until a full "layer-6+" has been<br>> > incorporated in the multiple technologies involved.<br>> > <a href="https://www.iab.org/2014/11/14/iab-statement-on-internet-confidentiality/" target="_blank">https://www.iab.org/2014/11/14/iab-statement-on-internet-confidentiality/</a><br>> ><br>> > jfc<br>> ><br>> <br></div></div><span class="">> ____________________________________________________________<br>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br>> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>> To be removed from the list, visit:<br>> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing</a><br>> <br>> For all other list information and functions, see:<br>> <a href="http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance" target="_blank">http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance</a><br>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<br>> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/</a><br>> <br>> Translate this email: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate_t" target="_blank">http://translate.google.com/translate_t</a><br>> </span></blockquote><br>____________________________________________________________<br>
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