[governance] US to impose sanctions on foreign cyber attackers

[willi uebelherr]

Dear Jefsey.

"that will allow to complete the second phase of Vint Cerf's IEN 48 
project of 1978"

What is this "second phase"? We know, in this time the transport systems 
was analogous based on many different technical implementations. 
Therefore, the first step was to bring the different network 
technologies together. This was a result of the stupid telecommunication 
companies. You know it from France.

many greetings, willi
Iquique, Chile


Am 04-04-2015 um 7:37 schrieb Jefsey:
> At 00:28 04/04/2015, Fouad Bajwa wrote:
>> But this should be a larger debate beyond the remit of nation states
>> that involves the broader civil society and other stakeholders. These
>> technologies did not just appear on their own, they were developed by
>> individuals, groups, communities and companies and so forth. Why are
>> we so afraid to create a discourse and bridge the gaps opposed to the
>> propaganda? Why not raise and argue at the IGF and regional fora? Why
>> not a dynamic coalition on the issue?
>
> This should. But for the time being better for me to share in the most
> efficient part I can forster/help.
>
> This is why I would certainly ***welcome and support*** a dynamic
> coalition on the issue. However, as long as I am concerned I can only
> focus on the post-google internet practical "initem" (set of initial
> conditions to condition or having conditionned a system), i.e. the
> catenet's substructural (between operations and infrastructure)
> technology that will allow to complete the second phase of Vint Cerf's
> IEN 48 project of 1978 - of which the first phase was the present
> internet. https://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien48.txt ("objectives" section).
>
> This was definitly blocked since 1985 by the NSA "status-quo" strategy
> of architectural protection (lack of OSI Layer 6 presentation in the
> UNIX/internet architecture). The recente "premissionless innovation" now
> partly opens the door to that possibility; however they want to keep
> controlling it via the "maffia type" multistakeholder pretence.
> Technological emergence is omnistakeholder based anyway, but they will
> keep containing it as much as they can until a full "layer-6+" has been
> incorporated in the multiple technologies involved.
> https://www.iab.org/2014/11/14/iab-statement-on-internet-confidentiality/
>
> jfc
>

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