[governance] URGENT: Last call for feedback on CS participation in NETmundial Initiative

Tue Nov 18 18:14:17 EST 2014

Hello everyone
What are the possible options. Participate or not.
What are advantages and benefits.
I think the CS must be present.
It is my recommendation

2014-11-18 17:57 GMT-05:00 parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>:

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> I am strongly against IGC joining the NetMundial Initiative.
>
> The reasons for this have been argued earlier here, and also contained in
> this statement   http://justnetcoalition.org/NMI-neoliberal-caravan .
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> Louis makes the argument rather clear and pithily.
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> I have seen two kinds of logics forwarded by those who wish to join the
> NMI process, which I paraphrase as follows:
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> (1) It is an important, perhaps central, global IG process, and if CS does
> not join, it will lose out
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> (2) It is not such a central global IG process *whereby* it is not of of
> huge import or significance that the World Economic Forum (against which
> incidentally the World Social Forum shaped us, as the more natural home of
> global civil society) has a central driving role in it..
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> The two arguments appear contradictory to me. Therefore the overall case
> to join the initiative is rather weak and unsustainable in my view.
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> If IGC, which came out of the umbrella CS grouping of the WSIS process,
> joins a WEF driven initiative, which is posited as a central global
> governance space, where 'solutions' to key public policy issues will be
> sought, it would militate against its historical and current legitimacy. It
> will be a very bad day for the civil society.
>
> parminder
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>  On Wednesday 19 November 2014 02:03 AM, Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote:
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> Merci Louis !
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> Your argument is short ... and fairly convincing ! Therefore I do share
> your logical conclusion.
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> Warmest regards
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> Jean-Louis Fullsack
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> PS Will Eurolinc participate in the ITU WSIS+10 Review of Progress Made
> (sic) 3-day meeting next week ?
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> > Message du 18/11/14 18:43
> > De : "Louis Pouzin (well)" <pouzin at well.com> <pouzin at well.com>
> > A : "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
> <governance at lists.igcaucus.org> <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>,
> "chlebrum ." <chlebrum at gmail.com> <chlebrum at gmail.com>
> > Copie à : "Baudouin Schombe" <baudouin.schombe at gmail.com>
> <baudouin.schombe at gmail.com>
> > Objet : Re: [governance] URGENT: Last call for feedback on CS
> participation in NETmundial Initiative
> >
> >
> Hi all,
> >
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> > Quite obviously if WEF is interested in CS joining in NMI it's because
> it helps WEF interests, which are well known to side with power and money.
> The idea of influencing WEF for CS interests sounds like fairy tale. CS
> would be trapped in accepting to appear supporting WEF interests, and would
> lose credibility.
> >
> > Therefore I think CS should not participate in the NMI.
> >
> > Louis.
> >
> - - -
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> >
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:20 PM, chlebrum . <chlebrum at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
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>>  "It looks like copineries and friendships circles."
>> That's all... and it's a pity!
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>> >
>>   Chantal Lebrument
>> Courriel: c <lebrument at open-root.eu>hlebrum at gmail.com
>> >
>> Mob: +33 6 8369 5460
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>> >
>> 2014-11-18 14:55 GMT+01:00 Baudouin Schombe <baudouin.schombe at gmail.com>:
>> >
>>>
>>>  My question becomes increasingly growing:
>>> > 1. What happens to the NetMundial?
>>> > 2. NetMundial initiative is different from NetMundial launched in
>>> Brazil?
>>> > 3. All these groupings of civil society are more partisan and exclusive
>>> selections. It looks like copineries and friendships circles.
>>> > I think we should take into account national and regional realities. Whether
>>> we talk or IGF NetMundial we need from considerations of each country because
>>> everything is based on some national issues is our continental location.
>>> > All these debates within civil society suggests a crisis of leadership with
>>> all its consequences.
>>> > What we want exactly?
>>> > With representation from civil society in UNCTAD, there has been
>>> exclusion; for MAG, so many asctuces and in the current situation for
>>> NetMundial again and again discriminatory policies.
>>> > Ultimately, whatever the plurality of civil society, should understand
>>> that many plurality of concepts also need?
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>>> >
>>>  2014-11-18 12:32 GMT+01:00 Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com>:
>>> >
>>>
>>>>   Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> You must have heard a good deal about this by now, so I won't repeat
>>>> the background details. In the middle of the night last night, before
>>>> hitting the bed after a long and drawn out day playing catch-up with
>>>> deadlines, I saw that Ian (chair of CSCG) forwarded the NMI Transitional
>>>> Committee's reply the CSCG enquiry. Basically, they are willing to let the
>>>> CSCG vet CS candidates to be part of the NMI Coordination Council.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> Now the question before us is to get a feel of the membership of CSCG
>>>> member entities as to whether to get involved in the NMI process or not. I
>>>> believe this is the last step in the consultations we've been having (with
>>>> NMI initiators, among ourselves at the CSCG and with the membership of our
>>>> respective organizations.) After this we should be able to give a definite
>>>> answer, formulate a definite position about our participation in the NMI
>>>> process.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> So what do you think? Please get right to the point and be brief. State
>>>> your preference for IGC Involvement or No involvement and, if you care to
>>>> provide us with such, I would be grateful to you if you could keep your
>>>> supporting argument in one short paragraph (as we just want to take the
>>>> "temperature of the room" if you see what I mean.)
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> Thank you for your understanding.
>>>> Best regards.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> Mawaki
>>>>
>>>
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