[governance] URGENT: Last call for feedback on CS participation in NETmundial Initiative
parminder
parminder at itforchange.net
Tue Nov 18 17:57:27 EST 2014
I am strongly against IGC joining the NetMundial Initiative.
The reasons for this have been argued earlier here, and also contained
in this statement http://justnetcoalition.org/NMI-neoliberal-caravan .
Louis makes the argument rather clear and pithily.
I have seen two kinds of logics forwarded by those who wish to join the
NMI process, which I paraphrase as follows:
(1) It is an important, perhaps central, global IG process, and if CS
does not join, it will lose out
(2) It is not such a central global IG process /whereby/ it is not of of
huge import or significance that the World Economic Forum (against which
incidentally the World Social Forum shaped us, as the more natural home
of global civil society) has a central driving role in it..
The two arguments appear contradictory to me. Therefore the overall case
to join the initiative is rather weak and unsustainable in my view.
If IGC, which came out of the umbrella CS grouping of the WSIS process,
joins a WEF driven initiative, which is posited as a central global
governance space, where 'solutions' to key public policy issues will be
sought, it would militate against its historical and current legitimacy.
It will be a very bad day for the civil society.
parminder
On Wednesday 19 November 2014 02:03 AM, Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote:
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> Merci Louis !
>
> Your argument is short ... and fairly convincing ! Therefore I do
> share your logical conclusion.
>
> Warmest regards
>
> Jean-Louis Fullsack
>
> PS Will Eurolinc participate in the ITU WSIS+10 Review of Progress
> Made (sic) 3-day meeting next week ?
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> > Message du 18/11/14 18:43
> > De : "Louis Pouzin (well)" <pouzin at well.com>
> > A : "governance at lists.igcaucus.org"
> <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>, "chlebrum ." <chlebrum at gmail.com>
> > Copie à : "Baudouin Schombe" <baudouin.schombe at gmail.com>
> > Objet : Re: [governance] URGENT: Last call for feedback on CS
> participation in NETmundial Initiative
> >
> >
> Hi all,
> >
>
> > Quite obviously if WEF is interested in CS joining in NMI it's
> because it helps WEF interests, which are well known to side with
> power and money. The idea of influencing WEF for CS interests
> sounds like fairy tale. CS would be trapped in accepting to appear
> supporting WEF interests, and would lose credibility.
> >
> > Therefore I think CS should not participate in the NMI.
> >
> > Louis.
> >
> - - -
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> >
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:20 PM, chlebrum . <chlebrum at gmail.com
> <mailto:chlebrum at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
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> "Itlooks likecopineriesand friendshipscircles."
> That's all... and it's a pity!
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> >
> Chantal Lebrument
> Courriel: c <mailto:lebrument at open-root.eu>hlebrum at gmail.com
> <mailto:hlebrum at gmail.com>
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> Mob: +33 6 8369 5460 <tel:%2B33%206%208369%205460>
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> >
> 2014-11-18 14:55 GMT+01:00 Baudouin Schombe
> <baudouin.schombe at gmail.com <mailto:baudouin.schombe at gmail.com>>:
> >
>
> My question becomes increasingly growing:
> > 1. What happens to the NetMundial?
> > 2. NetMundial initiative is different from NetMundial
> launched in Brazil?
> > 3. All these groupings of civil society are more
> partisan and exclusive selections. It looks like
> copineries and friendships circles.
> > I think we should take into account national and
> regional realities. Whether we talk or IGF NetMundial we
> need from considerations of each country because
> everything is based on some national issues is our
> continental location.
> > All these debates within civil society suggests a crisis
> of leadership with all its consequences.
> > What we want exactly?
> > With representation from civil society in UNCTAD, there
> has been exclusion; for MAG, so many asctuces and in the
> current situation for NetMundial again and again
> discriminatory policies.
> > Ultimately, whatever the plurality of civil society,
> should understand that many plurality of concepts also need?
>
> >
> 2014-11-18 12:32 GMT+01:00 Mawaki Chango
> <kichango at gmail.com <mailto:kichango at gmail.com>>:
> >
>
> Dear All,
>
> >
> You must have heard a good deal about this by now, so
> I won't repeat the background details. In the middle
> of the night last night, before hitting the bed after
> a long and drawn out day playing catch-up with
> deadlines, I saw that Ian (chair of CSCG) forwarded
> the NMI Transitional Committee's reply the CSCG
> enquiry. Basically, they are willing to let the CSCG
> vet CS candidates to be part of the NMI Coordination
> Council.
>
> >
> Now the question before us is to get a feel of the
> membership of CSCG member entities as to whether to
> get involved in the NMI process or not. I believe this
> is the last step in the consultations we've been
> having (with NMI initiators, among ourselves at the
> CSCG and with the membership of our respective
> organizations.) After this we should be able to give a
> definite answer, formulate a definite position about
> our participation in the NMI process.
>
> >
> So what do you think? Please get right to the point
> and be brief. State your preference for IGC
> Involvement or No involvement and, if you care to
> provide us with such, I would be grateful to you if
> you could keep your supporting argument in one short
> paragraph (as we just want to take the "temperature of
> the room" if you see what I mean.)
>
> >
> Thank you for your understanding.
> Best regards.
>
> >
> Mawaki
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> >
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