[governance] .WINE .VIN - who's business is it ?

Mawaki Chango kichango at gmail.com
Sat May 24 14:23:20 EDT 2014


First, I have to say I don't know the exact terms of the ongoing
negotiations with the European Commission and wine interests, etc.

However, while it's true that we've clearly seen other cases of unwarranted
USG interference in ICANN's decision-making processes (eg, .xxx), this
correspondence doesn't look to me either like one of them. Any government
may write to ICANN and express their position on a pending issue, remind
the organization that there has not been a consensus within GAC on the said
issue (if it's thought that the path being taken by ICANN is predicated on
such consensus or can only make sense and be implementable if there were
such consensus,) or still call the organization's attention to the fact
that the decision they are contemplating may conflict with established and
internationally recognized rights, etc.

Now that doesn't necessarily mean that ICANN should automatically abide by
that opinion or those arguments. If the organization determines that there
are solid, internationally defensible legal grounds to go ahead with the
decision, they might still do just that (while responding to the said
government explaining their grounds) until a legitimate obstacle is met, in
accordance to their own rules and procedures which has been sanctioned by
the community at one point or the other in the past.

Now, I wish this were actually how business is done, and that no one at
ICANN ever gets impressed and influenced in their proceedings by the fact
that the government voicing opinion or raising the flag (possibly with a
statement of facts, as it sees them), so happens to be the very one that
has an oversight role over the organization. Hopefully, that uncertainty
(again, the trust issue) will go away after Sept. 2015 and proper
mechanisms will be in place for ICANN to account effectively for their
policy decisions, particularly on such potentially contentious issues.

Mawaki

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On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 2:53 PM, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:

> I read that earlier this morning while looking for something else.
>
> For all your talk of nation state sovereignty, does not the USA have
> the right to point out that Geographical Indicators are the purview of
> intergovernmental bodies and not ICANN?
>
> I see no interference here, just a statement of facts.
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Louis Pouzin (well) <pouzin at well.com>
> wrote:
> > There is a fairy tale whereby the USG doesn't interfere with ICANN's
> > management. But that's for gullible people.
> >
> >
> https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/strickling-to-crocker-21may14-en.pdf
> >
> > Sorry. USG über alles.
> >  .
> > Louis
> >
> >
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