[governance] Re: "[...] to seize Iran's Internet licenses & domain name assets"
Diego Rafael Canabarro
diegocanabarro at gmail.com
Thu Jul 31 10:00:12 EDT 2014
A preliminary legal analysis of the ICANN response can be found here:
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140730_icanns_ir_response_opens_legal_can_of_worms/
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 6:56 PM, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
> Press Release and legal responses can be found here:
>
> https://www.icann.org/resources/press-material/release-2014-07-30-en
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:
> > Far, far-fetched... again!
> >
> > --c.a.
> >
> > On 06/30/2014 09:56 AM, JFC Morfin wrote:
> >> At 04:09 29/06/2014, Abdul Jaleel Shittu wrote:
> >>> Who is wagging cyber war against who? The big Boss has unquestionable
> >>> right to do anything as he likes. This development is not a good omen
> >>> to the aspiration Internet Governance, this judgement is justifying
> >>> the moves by some countries to have alternative www, where mutual
> >>> respects prevail.
> >>
> >> Dear Abdul,
> >>
> >> The fundamental scientific issue for 125 years (since 21 Jan 1889
> >> Norwegian award to Henri Poincaré for his non-demonstration of the
> >> n-body problem) is the replacement of the Newtonian paradigm. We are
> >> therefore engaged in a mental change of the magnitude of the Copernician
> >> revolution. The problem is the problem of "locality". You probably heard
> >> about the EPR experimentation and teleportation. Some information travel
> >> faster than photons. Causes may seem to precede their effect. This
> >> problem now becomes the core of the Internet issue as it entangles with
> >> what is known as the technological singularity (not that machines will
> >> replace human, but that humans cannot stay human without machines: last
> >> time we known a singularity was with Socrates/Plato/Aristotle when they
> >> switched human behaviour from feelings (sophism) to logic (syllogism) -
> >> to day we are switching from dialectic logic to
> >> monolectic/cybernetics+polylectics/agorics and we needed the digital
> >> renormalization to scale, being limited by our brain relational capacity
> >> [Dunbar number http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's_number>]).
> >>
> >> You know that Claude Shanon has introduced entropy in information theory
> >> through the communications concept. We have the same knind of thinking
> >> to accomplish to introduce now negentropy through the intellition
> >> concept. Communications are data transported at the speed of the light.
> >> Intellition are data that are already here because they make sense.
> >>
> >> This architectonic (comprehending how things are) development
> >> dramatically enlarges the spectrum of possibilities in architectural
> >> (designing how some things should be) design. The internet architecture
> >> is documented in IEN 48 (http://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien48.txt). Over
> >> the years working on it helped people to better take advantage from its
> >> architectonics (it has even become a scientific discipline using the
> >> internet as a test-bed). It has become quite intricated with intelligent
> >> and stupid things.
> >>
> >> More and more, understanding the internet, net-neutrality, net-economy,
> >> the internet governance, etc. is like understanding physics, relativity,
> >> quantum-physic, energy, etc. because this is the ***same*** thing :
> >> information/communication/intellition. The confusion is the same: you
> >> have the technicians/scientifics, the politicians and the lawyers. The
> >> lawyers are people who apply the law, that the politicians enforce, that
> >> the technicians impose to all through popular machines, that science
> >> tries to discover.
> >>
> >> Things would be easier and go faster the other way round, but this is
> >> the way the world does the things: along the money's increasing flow
> >> against the common sense's one.
> >>
> >> Lawyers are talking about a legal unique authoritative root. Politicials
> >> are protecting an US unique authoritative root. Technicians have
> >> developed a technology to support billions of unique authoritative
> >> roots. Scientists know that unique authoritative roots are neither
> >> legalized, neither built, but observed and massaged by each user for
> >> his/her own home use. The king is naked. But since he is the king he can
> >> lie and say otherwise.
> >>
> >> The .ir issue is a legal joke which alarms and makes lawyers, possibly
> >> politicians, sqawking. It only shows that lawyers did not even designed
> >> their contractual network to protect the world from this kind of
> >> technical absurdity due to a legal/political lack of consideration. We
> >> did not trust the politicians, we know now why we can distrust the
> >> lawyers. Why would I waste time and money with an unfinished system, at
> >> guessing, worrying and developping contingency plans due to such nasty
> >> attacks with unforeseable results and delays.
> >>
> >> Who can we then trust?
> >>
> >> Not the technicians anymore. They explained it last year (IEEE, ISOC,
> >> IAB, IERF, W3C): they themselves trust the maket's economics, i.e. the
> >> mechants (however they do not say how): this is the RFC 6852 about the
> >> "modern normative paradigm". The acknowledgment of the "local/global"
> >> problem at the RFC process level.
> >>
> >> This is why "moves by some countries to have alternative www, where
> >> mutual respects prevail" is the way out. Not only at country, region,
> >> language, city, village, trade, etc but at individual level. This is
> >> what the WSIS has unanimously wished: a people centered digitality.
> >> Don't worry. There is a unique authoritative sky, but it is not decided
> >> by the (SOS) Scientific Observatory System. Believe me: you do not need
> >> ICANN to know where the stars are ....
> >>
> >> jfc
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> ..................................................
> >>> Abdul Jaleel Kehinde Shittu (PhD) (MIEEE)
> >>> Senior Lecturer
> >>> Public Enterprise Computing (PEC)
> >>> School of Computing
> >>> College of Arts and Sciences
> >>> University Utara Malaysia
> >>> 06010 Sintok
> >>> Kedah
> >>> Malaysia
> >>>
> >>> Office: +6049285095
> >>> Fax: Â Â +6049285067
> >>> Mobile: +60123052075
> >>>
> >>> abdulJaleel.K.Shittu at ieee.org <mailto:abdulJaleel.K.Shittu at ieee.org>Â
> >>> omomeji at ais.org <mailto:omomeji at ais.org>
> >>> shittua at acm.org <mailto:shittua at acm.org>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.flipsnack.com/FAC55B5C5A8/fukiofi3
> >>>
> >>>
> https://www.hetl.org/academic-articles/ict-impact-assessment-model-an-extension-of-the-cipp-and-kirkpatrick-models/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Â
> >>> Â http://about.me/abduljaleelshittu.
> >>> "It is one attitude, not one aptitude, that determines one altitude
> >>> in life".
> >>> Â
> >>> "In the presence of greatness, pettiness disappears. In the absence of
> >>> a great dream, pettiness prevails."
> >>> Â
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch
> >>> <mailto:nb at bollow.ch>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Am Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:18:07 +0200
> >>> schrieb Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer at internatif.org
> >>> <mailto:bortzmeyer at internatif.org>>:
> >>> > There have been, apparently, a judgment (transferring the .ir, no
> >>> > less...), in the USA:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-us-terror-victims-now-own-irans-internet/
> >>>
> >>> Is the judgment itself available online?
> >>> I find the article not overly illuminating, it IMO seems to be
> >>> based to
> >>> a too large extent on speculations of people who evidently don't
> know
> >>> what they're talking about in relation to the Internet. Not that
> the
> >>> judgment itself is necessarily better in that regard, but court
> >>> judgments are a serious matter regardless of the correctness of the
> >>> underlying assumptions.
> >>> Greetings,
> >>> Norbert
> >>>
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> McTim
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