<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">A preliminary legal analysis of the ICANN response can be found here:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140730_icanns_ir_response_opens_legal_can_of_worms/">http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140730_icanns_ir_response_opens_legal_can_of_worms/</a></font><br>
</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 6:56 PM, McTim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com" target="_blank">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Press Release and legal responses can be found here:<br>
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<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/press-material/release-2014-07-30-en" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/resources/press-material/release-2014-07-30-en</a><br>
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On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca">ca@cafonso.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
> Far, far-fetched... again!<br>
><br>
> --c.a.<br>
><br>
> On 06/30/2014 09:56 AM, JFC Morfin wrote:<br>
>> At 04:09 29/06/2014, Abdul Jaleel Shittu wrote:<br>
>>> Who is wagging cyber war against who? The big Boss has unquestionable<br>
>>> right to do anything as he likes. This development is not a good omen<br>
>>> to the aspiration Internet Governance, this judgement is justifying<br>
>>> the moves by some countries to have alternative www, where mutual<br>
>>> respects prevail.<br>
>><br>
>> Dear Abdul,<br>
>><br>
>> The fundamental scientific issue for 125 years (since 21 Jan 1889<br>
>> Norwegian award to Henri Poincaré for his non-demonstration of the<br>
>> n-body problem) is the replacement of the Newtonian paradigm. We are<br>
>> therefore engaged in a mental change of the magnitude of the Copernician<br>
>> revolution. The problem is the problem of "locality". You probably heard<br>
>> about the EPR experimentation and teleportation. Some information travel<br>
>> faster than photons. Causes may seem to precede their effect. This<br>
>> problem now becomes the core of the Internet issue as it entangles with<br>
>> what is known as the technological singularity (not that machines will<br>
>> replace human, but that humans cannot stay human without machines: last<br>
>> time we known a singularity was with Socrates/Plato/Aristotle when they<br>
>> switched human behaviour from feelings (sophism) to logic (syllogism) -<br>
>> to day we are switching from dialectic logic to<br>
>> monolectic/cybernetics+polylectics/agorics and we needed the digital<br>
>> renormalization to scale, being limited by our brain relational capacity<br>
>> [Dunbar number <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number</a><br>
>> <<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's_number" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's_number</a>>]).<br>
>><br>
>> You know that Claude Shanon has introduced entropy in information theory<br>
>> through the communications concept. We have the same knind of thinking<br>
>> to accomplish to introduce now negentropy through the intellition<br>
>> concept. Communications are data transported at the speed of the light.<br>
>> Intellition are data that are already here because they make sense.<br>
>><br>
>> This architectonic (comprehending how things are) development<br>
>> dramatically enlarges the spectrum of possibilities in architectural<br>
>> (designing how some things should be) design. The internet architecture<br>
>> is documented in IEN 48 (<a href="http://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien48.txt" target="_blank">http://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien48.txt</a>). Over<br>
>> the years working on it helped people to better take advantage from its<br>
>> architectonics (it has even become a scientific discipline using the<br>
>> internet as a test-bed). It has become quite intricated with intelligent<br>
>> and stupid things.<br>
>><br>
>> More and more, understanding the internet, net-neutrality, net-economy,<br>
>> the internet governance, etc. is like understanding physics, relativity,<br>
>> quantum-physic, energy, etc. because this is the ***same*** thing :<br>
>> information/communication/intellition. The confusion is the same: you<br>
>> have the technicians/scientifics, the politicians and the lawyers. The<br>
>> lawyers are people who apply the law, that the politicians enforce, that<br>
>> the technicians impose to all through popular machines, that science<br>
>> tries to discover.<br>
>><br>
>> Things would be easier and go faster the other way round, but this is<br>
>> the way the world does the things: along the money's increasing flow<br>
>> against the common sense's one.<br>
>><br>
>> Lawyers are talking about a legal unique authoritative root. Politicials<br>
>> are protecting an US unique authoritative root. Technicians have<br>
>> developed a technology to support billions of unique authoritative<br>
>> roots. Scientists know that unique authoritative roots are neither<br>
>> legalized, neither built, but observed and massaged by each user for<br>
>> his/her own home use. The king is naked. But since he is the king he can<br>
>> lie and say otherwise.<br>
>><br>
>> The .ir issue is a legal joke which alarms and makes lawyers, possibly<br>
>> politicians, sqawking. It only shows that lawyers did not even designed<br>
>> their contractual network to protect the world from this kind of<br>
>> technical absurdity due to a legal/political lack of consideration. We<br>
>> did not trust the politicians, we know now why we can distrust the<br>
>> lawyers. Why would I waste time and money with an unfinished system, at<br>
>> guessing, worrying and developping contingency plans due to such nasty<br>
>> attacks with unforeseable results and delays.<br>
>><br>
>> Who can we then trust?<br>
>><br>
>> Not the technicians anymore. They explained it last year (IEEE, ISOC,<br>
>> IAB, IERF, W3C): they themselves trust the maket's economics, i.e. the<br>
>> mechants (however they do not say how): this is the RFC 6852 about the<br>
>> "modern normative paradigm". The acknowledgment of the "local/global"<br>
>> problem at the RFC process level.<br>
>><br>
>> This is why "moves by some countries to have alternative www, where<br>
>> mutual respects prevail" is the way out. Not only at country, region,<br>
>> language, city, village, trade, etc but at individual level. This is<br>
>> what the WSIS has unanimously wished: a people centered digitality.<br>
>> Don't worry. There is a unique authoritative sky, but it is not decided<br>
>> by the (SOS) Scientific Observatory System. Believe me: you do not need<br>
>> ICANN to know where the stars are ....<br>
>><br>
>> jfc<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> ..................................................<br>
>>> Abdul Jaleel Kehinde Shittu (PhD) (MIEEE)<br>
>>> Senior Lecturer<br>
>>> Public Enterprise Computing (PEC)<br>
>>> School of Computing<br>
>>> College of Arts and Sciences<br>
>>> University Utara Malaysia<br>
>>> 06010 Sintok<br>
>>> Kedah<br>
>>> Malaysia<br>
>>><br>
>>> Office: <a href="tel:%2B6049285095" value="+6049285095">+6049285095</a><br>
>>> Fax: Â Â <a href="tel:%2B6049285067" value="+6049285067">+6049285067</a><br>
>>> Mobile: <a href="tel:%2B60123052075" value="+60123052075">+60123052075</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="mailto:abdulJaleel.K.Shittu@ieee.org">abdulJaleel.K.Shittu@ieee.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:abdulJaleel.K.Shittu@ieee.org">abdulJaleel.K.Shittu@ieee.org</a>>Â<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:omomeji@ais.org">omomeji@ais.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:omomeji@ais.org">omomeji@ais.org</a>><br>
>>> <a href="mailto:shittua@acm.org">shittua@acm.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:shittua@acm.org">shittua@acm.org</a>><br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="http://www.flipsnack.com/FAC55B5C5A8/fukiofi3" target="_blank">http://www.flipsnack.com/FAC55B5C5A8/fukiofi3</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="https://www.hetl.org/academic-articles/ict-impact-assessment-model-an-extension-of-the-cipp-and-kirkpatrick-models/" target="_blank">https://www.hetl.org/academic-articles/ict-impact-assessment-model-an-extension-of-the-cipp-and-kirkpatrick-models/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Â<br>
>>> Â <a href="http://about.me/abduljaleelshittu" target="_blank">http://about.me/abduljaleelshittu</a>.<br>
>>> "It is one attitude, not one aptitude, that determines one altitude<br>
>>> in life".<br>
>>> Â<br>
>>> "In the presence of greatness, pettiness disappears. In the absence of<br>
>>> a great dream, pettiness prevails."<br>
>>> Â<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Norbert Bollow <<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch">nb@bollow.ch</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch">nb@bollow.ch</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Am Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:18:07 +0200<br>
>>> schrieb Stephane Bortzmeyer <<a href="mailto:bortzmeyer@internatif.org">bortzmeyer@internatif.org</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bortzmeyer@internatif.org">bortzmeyer@internatif.org</a>>>:<br>
>>> > There have been, apparently, a judgment (transferring the .ir, no<br>
>>> > less...), in the USA:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> <a href="http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-us-terror-victims-now-own-irans-internet/" target="_blank">http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-us-terror-victims-now-own-irans-internet/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> Is the judgment itself available online?<br>
>>> I find the article not overly illuminating, it IMO seems to be<br>
>>> based to<br>
>>> a too large extent on speculations of people who evidently don't know<br>
>>> what they're talking about in relation to the Internet. Not that the<br>
>>> judgment itself is necessarily better in that regard, but court<br>
>>> judgments are a serious matter regardless of the correctness of the<br>
>>> underlying assumptions.<br>
>>> Greetings,<br>
>>> Norbert<br>
>>><br>
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