[governance] Re: "[...] to seize Iran's Internet licenses & domain name assets"
McTim
dogwallah at gmail.com
Wed Jul 30 17:56:03 EDT 2014
Press Release and legal responses can be found here:
https://www.icann.org/resources/press-material/release-2014-07-30-en
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:
> Far, far-fetched... again!
>
> --c.a.
>
> On 06/30/2014 09:56 AM, JFC Morfin wrote:
>> At 04:09 29/06/2014, Abdul Jaleel Shittu wrote:
>>> Who is wagging cyber war against who? The big Boss has unquestionable
>>> right to do anything as he likes. This development is not a good omen
>>> to the aspiration Internet Governance, this judgement is justifying
>>> the moves by some countries to have alternative www, where mutual
>>> respects prevail.
>>
>> Dear Abdul,
>>
>> The fundamental scientific issue for 125 years (since 21 Jan 1889
>> Norwegian award to Henri Poincaré for his non-demonstration of the
>> n-body problem) is the replacement of the Newtonian paradigm. We are
>> therefore engaged in a mental change of the magnitude of the Copernician
>> revolution. The problem is the problem of "locality". You probably heard
>> about the EPR experimentation and teleportation. Some information travel
>> faster than photons. Causes may seem to precede their effect. This
>> problem now becomes the core of the Internet issue as it entangles with
>> what is known as the technological singularity (not that machines will
>> replace human, but that humans cannot stay human without machines: last
>> time we known a singularity was with Socrates/Plato/Aristotle when they
>> switched human behaviour from feelings (sophism) to logic (syllogism) -
>> to day we are switching from dialectic logic to
>> monolectic/cybernetics+polylectics/agorics and we needed the digital
>> renormalization to scale, being limited by our brain relational capacity
>> [Dunbar number http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's_number>]).
>>
>> You know that Claude Shanon has introduced entropy in information theory
>> through the communications concept. We have the same knind of thinking
>> to accomplish to introduce now negentropy through the intellition
>> concept. Communications are data transported at the speed of the light.
>> Intellition are data that are already here because they make sense.
>>
>> This architectonic (comprehending how things are) development
>> dramatically enlarges the spectrum of possibilities in architectural
>> (designing how some things should be) design. The internet architecture
>> is documented in IEN 48 (http://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien48.txt). Over
>> the years working on it helped people to better take advantage from its
>> architectonics (it has even become a scientific discipline using the
>> internet as a test-bed). It has become quite intricated with intelligent
>> and stupid things.
>>
>> More and more, understanding the internet, net-neutrality, net-economy,
>> the internet governance, etc. is like understanding physics, relativity,
>> quantum-physic, energy, etc. because this is the ***same*** thing :
>> information/communication/intellition. The confusion is the same: you
>> have the technicians/scientifics, the politicians and the lawyers. The
>> lawyers are people who apply the law, that the politicians enforce, that
>> the technicians impose to all through popular machines, that science
>> tries to discover.
>>
>> Things would be easier and go faster the other way round, but this is
>> the way the world does the things: along the money's increasing flow
>> against the common sense's one.
>>
>> Lawyers are talking about a legal unique authoritative root. Politicials
>> are protecting an US unique authoritative root. Technicians have
>> developed a technology to support billions of unique authoritative
>> roots. Scientists know that unique authoritative roots are neither
>> legalized, neither built, but observed and massaged by each user for
>> his/her own home use. The king is naked. But since he is the king he can
>> lie and say otherwise.
>>
>> The .ir issue is a legal joke which alarms and makes lawyers, possibly
>> politicians, sqawking. It only shows that lawyers did not even designed
>> their contractual network to protect the world from this kind of
>> technical absurdity due to a legal/political lack of consideration. We
>> did not trust the politicians, we know now why we can distrust the
>> lawyers. Why would I waste time and money with an unfinished system, at
>> guessing, worrying and developping contingency plans due to such nasty
>> attacks with unforeseable results and delays.
>>
>> Who can we then trust?
>>
>> Not the technicians anymore. They explained it last year (IEEE, ISOC,
>> IAB, IERF, W3C): they themselves trust the maket's economics, i.e. the
>> mechants (however they do not say how): this is the RFC 6852 about the
>> "modern normative paradigm". The acknowledgment of the "local/global"
>> problem at the RFC process level.
>>
>> This is why "moves by some countries to have alternative www, where
>> mutual respects prevail" is the way out. Not only at country, region,
>> language, city, village, trade, etc but at individual level. This is
>> what the WSIS has unanimously wished: a people centered digitality.
>> Don't worry. There is a unique authoritative sky, but it is not decided
>> by the (SOS) Scientific Observatory System. Believe me: you do not need
>> ICANN to know where the stars are ....
>>
>> jfc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch
>>> <mailto:nb at bollow.ch>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Am Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:18:07 +0200
>>> schrieb Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer at internatif.org
>>> <mailto:bortzmeyer at internatif.org>>:
>>> > There have been, apparently, a judgment (transferring the .ir, no
>>> > less...), in the USA:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-us-terror-victims-now-own-irans-internet/
>>>
>>> Is the judgment itself available online?
>>> I find the article not overly illuminating, it IMO seems to be
>>> based to
>>> a too large extent on speculations of people who evidently don't know
>>> what they're talking about in relation to the Internet. Not that the
>>> judgment itself is necessarily better in that regard, but court
>>> judgments are a serious matter regardless of the correctness of the
>>> underlying assumptions.
>>> Greetings,
>>> Norbert
>>>
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