[governance] RE: [bestbits] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014

Fri Oct 11 14:52:01 EDT 2013

Valid point Parminder. 

Anriette

On 11/10/2013 20:25, parminder wrote:
>
> On Friday 11 October 2013 11:24 PM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:
>> Agree with Anja too.. I think we need to excercise caution. I do
>> think that once we know more about this event we should intervene
>> strongly.
>>
>> At this point I think a general outcome statement from the Best Bits
>> meeting (with support from the IGC if it can reach consensus) could
>> praise this initiative, but make come cautionary points about it. We
>> should also use the opportunity of talking with Brazilian colleagues
>> and government people in Bali to get more insight into how they
>> envision this event.
>>
>> I would not write another letter before the IGF.
>
> By then it will be a Brazilian initiative supported by ICANN, not a
> Brazilian initiative supported by ICANN and a considerable part of
> global civil society... And it wont change after that...
>
> parminder
>>
>> Anriette
>>
>> On 11/10/2013 19:29, Robert Guerra wrote:
>>> Anja +1
>>>
>>> We need to be strategic. We also should beware of the consequences
>>> of not engaging in a strategic fashion that takes into consideration
>>> geopolitics. 
>>>
>>> I worry at the level of exuberant enthusiasm felt by many. I fear ,
>>> as has happened in the past, CS might be pawns in larger play by far
>>> better resourced actors that ultimately  will result in a very
>>> different , more state-centric model of Internet governance where
>>> rights are trampled on. I hope I'm wrong...
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> R. Guerra
>>> Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081
>>> Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom <http://twitter.com/netfreedom> 
>>> Email: rguerra at privaterra.org <mailto:rguerra at privaterra.org>
>>>
>>> On 2013-10-11, at 1:07 PM, Anja Kovacs wrote:
>>>
>>>> When civil society writes too many letters to a person in short
>>>> succession, I am afraid they loose their force. As I wrote on the
>>>> Best Bits list, CS letters should be received with a mix of
>>>> excitement and apprehension, I am concerned that when we send a
>>>> third, more detailed letter to President Rousseff next week, she
>>>> will simply receive it with fatigue.
>>>>
>>>> Civil society is asking for seats at the table all the time. The
>>>> point is what we do when we get there. I think a more detailed
>>>> letter in ten days time will have more force.
>>>>
>>>> Also because we don't have to sit still in the mean time. There are
>>>> other ways in which we can make evident to the Brazilian government
>>>> that  we are interested in working with them on this and support
>>>> this idea, including by communicating with them to find out more
>>>> directly and by seeing whether we can work with them on this
>>>> through the IGF.
>>>>
>>>> My two paise,
>>>> Anja
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11 October 2013 22:04, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch
>>>> <mailto:nb at bollow.ch>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Parminder <parminder at itforchange.net
>>>>     <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     > You are just making a general statement that caution and
>>>>     foresight is
>>>>     > good - and with such a statement who can disagree.... But here I
>>>>     > havent been told the risk - and beyond  a point, just about any
>>>>     > political act carries risk.
>>>>
>>>>     Also, not acting when an opportunity presents itself carries
>>>>     more than just the risk of losing that opportunity, it carries the
>>>>     certainty of losing that opportunity.
>>>>
>>>>     Greetings,
>>>>     Norbert
>>>>
>>>>
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>> anriette esterhuysen anriette at apc.org
>> executive director, association for progressive communications
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