[governance] RE: [bestbits] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014

Fri Oct 11 15:35:50 EDT 2013

Probably also worth mentioning… the fact that there are 3 items in close succession worthy of positive comment from our perspective (after months of little but uniformly negative developments) is something to be celebrated rather than resisted… especially since it would be appear as per CA's note that our comments are being brought to the attention of the most appropriate and highest authorities.

What's not to like :)

M

From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Anriette Esterhuysen
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 11:52 AM
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Subject: Re: [governance] RE: [bestbits] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014

Valid point Parminder.  

Anriette

On 11/10/2013 20:25, parminder wrote:

On Friday 11 October 2013 11:24 PM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:

Agree with Anja too.. I think we need to excercise caution. I do think that once we know more about this event we should intervene strongly.

At this point I think a general outcome statement from the Best Bits meeting (with support from the IGC if it can reach consensus) could praise this initiative, but make come cautionary points about it. We should also use the opportunity of talking with Brazilian colleagues and government people in Bali to get more insight into how they envision this event.

I would not write another letter before the IGF.

By then it will be a Brazilian initiative supported by ICANN, not a Brazilian initiative supported by ICANN and a considerable part of global civil society... And it wont change after that...

parminder 

Anriette

On 11/10/2013 19:29, Robert Guerra wrote:

Anja +1 

We need to be strategic. We also should beware of the consequences of not engaging in a strategic fashion that takes into consideration geopolitics. 

I worry at the level of exuberant enthusiasm felt by many. I fear , as has happened in the past, CS might be pawns in larger play by far better resourced actors that ultimately  will result in a very different , more state-centric model of Internet governance where rights are trampled on. I hope I'm wrong...

regards

Robert

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On 2013-10-11, at 1:07 PM, Anja Kovacs wrote:

When civil society writes too many letters to a person in short succession, I am afraid they loose their force. As I wrote on the Best Bits list, CS letters should be received with a mix of excitement and apprehension, I am concerned that when we send a third, more detailed letter to President Rousseff next week, she will simply receive it with fatigue. 

Civil society is asking for seats at the table all the time. The point is what we do when we get there. I think a more detailed letter in ten days time will have more force. 

Also because we don't have to sit still in the mean time. There are other ways in which we can make evident to the Brazilian government that  we are interested in working with them on this and support this idea, including by communicating with them to find out more directly and by seeing whether we can work with them on this through the IGF. 

My two paise,

Anja

On 11 October 2013 22:04, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:

Parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:

> You are just making a general statement that caution and foresight is
> good - and with such a statement who can disagree.... But here I
> havent been told the risk - and beyond  a point, just about any
> political act carries risk.

Also, not acting when an opportunity presents itself carries
more than just the risk of losing that opportunity, it carries the
certainty of losing that opportunity.

Greetings,
Norbert

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