[governance] RE: [bestbits] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014

[parminder]

On Friday 11 October 2013 11:24 PM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:
> Agree with Anja too.. I think we need to excercise caution. I do think 
> that once we know more about this event we should intervene strongly.
>
> At this point I think a general outcome statement from the Best Bits 
> meeting (with support from the IGC if it can reach consensus) could 
> praise this initiative, but make come cautionary points about it. We 
> should also use the opportunity of talking with Brazilian colleagues 
> and government people in Bali to get more insight into how they 
> envision this event.
>
> I would not write another letter before the IGF.

By then it will be a Brazilian initiative supported by ICANN, not a 
Brazilian initiative supported by ICANN and a considerable part of 
global civil society... And it wont change after that...

parminder
>
> Anriette
>
> On 11/10/2013 19:29, Robert Guerra wrote:
>> Anja +1
>>
>> We need to be strategic. We also should beware of the consequences of 
>> not engaging in a strategic fashion that takes into consideration 
>> geopolitics.
>>
>> I worry at the level of exuberant enthusiasm felt by many. I fear , 
>> as has happened in the past, CS might be pawns in larger play by far 
>> better resourced actors that ultimately  will result in a very 
>> different , more state-centric model of Internet governance where 
>> rights are trampled on. I hope I'm wrong...
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> --
>> R. Guerra
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>>
>> On 2013-10-11, at 1:07 PM, Anja Kovacs wrote:
>>
>>> When civil society writes too many letters to a person in short 
>>> succession, I am afraid they loose their force. As I wrote on the 
>>> Best Bits list, CS letters should be received with a mix of 
>>> excitement and apprehension, I am concerned that when we send a 
>>> third, more detailed letter to President Rousseff next week, she 
>>> will simply receive it with fatigue.
>>>
>>> Civil society is asking for seats at the table all the time. The 
>>> point is what we do when we get there. I think a more detailed 
>>> letter in ten days time will have more force.
>>>
>>> Also because we don't have to sit still in the mean time. There are 
>>> other ways in which we can make evident to the Brazilian government 
>>> that  we are interested in working with them on this and support 
>>> this idea, including by communicating with them to find out more 
>>> directly and by seeing whether we can work with them on this through 
>>> the IGF.
>>>
>>> My two paise,
>>> Anja
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 October 2013 22:04, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch 
>>> <mailto:nb at bollow.ch>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Parminder <parminder at itforchange.net
>>>     <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     > You are just making a general statement that caution and
>>>     foresight is
>>>     > good - and with such a statement who can disagree.... But here I
>>>     > havent been told the risk - and beyond  a point, just about any
>>>     > political act carries risk.
>>>
>>>     Also, not acting when an opportunity presents itself carries
>>>     more than just the risk of losing that opportunity, it carries the
>>>     certainty of losing that opportunity.
>>>
>>>     Greetings,
>>>     Norbert
>>>
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