[governance] EU Commissioner

[Jean-Louis FULLSACK]

dear carlos 

I do share all your arguments against cloud computing. I'd add another one, based on technical and networking aspects of the "cloud", which is particularly relevant -although not solely- for developing countries. It concerns network reliability which conditions the ability of any user for accessing his cloud stored data and tools. In Europe -the realm of "aunt Nelly"- network reliability (availability) is generally at a high standard. However even some well-known legacy networks were suffering severe breakdowns in the recent past (BT, SFR, FT, among others). A complementary aspect of this argument is the QoS that has to be at an appropriate standard over the time for guarantiing a regular dataflow between the user and the cloud server(s).

But both of these issues are very problematic in DCs, and I specially consider Africa. In these countries electricity supply is poor -when it exists- and this interferes severely with both network availability and server availability. These arguments are generally ignored by those enthousiastic folks that officiate in so-called high level sessions of the WSIS Fora; probably do they have some reasons ...

Best regards

Jean-Louis Fullsack 





> Message du 15/11/13 11:48
> De : "Carlos A. Afonso" 
> A : governance at lists.igcaucus.org, "Louis Pouzin (well)" 
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> Objet : Re: [governance] EU Commissioner
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> My thoughts on cloud computing (or as a Japanese executive said to us in
> a debate here in Rio, "cRowd computing" -- the Japanese idiom does not
> have the "L" as much as the Chinese does not have the "R") or cloud
> storage is the fashion of the day in the industry. It is nothing more
> than doing your processing and/or storage in remote machines, in the
> hands of people you have to trust.
> 
> Today storage and processing power are within reach of most
> organizations, so the problem which would motivate moving your data to
> in effect unknown whereabouts (you do know where the physical servers
> are when you hire cloud services, don't you?) is cost of trusted
> computer systemns admins and cost of software licensing. The second can
> be solved by using FOSS. The first is the Achiles heel for most
> companies: today is probably the most expensive component for
> maintaining servers & systems in house.
> 
> So you would trust more a remote server service (which you don't even
> know where it is located, who is managing, who has access to the
> passwords, how the links to these servers are effectively protected, is
> the cloud services owner doing data-mining on your data?, is the data
> stored in an encrypted form which guarantees outsiders or the local
> admin have no way to peek into it?, has the owner been forced by NSA or
> CGHQ to open up the servers' innards for them?, has the owner accepted
> payments from these agencies for opening things up? etc etc etc) than a
> local installation under your control (whatever the vulnerabilities of
> your control)? I would not.
> 
> Just now M$ was forced to disclose to the EU that its pipes linking its
> cloud centers are not encrypted. OK, would it make any difference if
> they were encrypted but M$ has that contract with NSA which etc etc?
> 
> Cloud c & s would make some good sense in a world of saints. But we live
> in a real world of demons, to put it in a Machiavellian form.
> 
> Sorry, aunt Neelie...
> 
> --c.a.
> 
> On 11/14/2013 10:09 PM, Louis Pouzin (well) wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 9:40 PM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <
> > wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de> wrote:
> > 
> >>
> >> http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-13-922_en.htm
> >>
> >> W
> >>
> >> When .eu was launched in 2005, it was touted as providing a trusted space.
> > Eight years later we get the same song with the cloud.
> > When will the nebula be launched :-))
> > Louis
> > - - -
> > 
> 
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