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<p>dear carlos </p>
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<p>I do share all your arguments against cloud computing. I'd add another one, based on technical and networking aspects of the "cloud", which is particularly relevant -although not solely- for developing countries. It concerns network reliability which conditions the ability of any user for accessing his cloud stored data and tools. In Europe -the realm of "aunt Nelly"- network reliability (availability) is generally at a high standard. However even some well-known legacy networks were suffering severe breakdowns in the recent past (BT, SFR, FT, among others). A complementary aspect of this argument is the QoS that has to be at an appropriate standard over the time for guarantiing a regular dataflow between the user and the cloud server(s).</p>
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<p>But both of these issues are very problematic in DCs, and I specially consider Africa. In these countries electricity supply is poor -when it exists- and this interferes severely with both network availability and server availability. These arguments are generally ignored by those enthousiastic folks that officiate in so-called high level sessions of the WSIS Fora; probably do they have some reasons ...</p>
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<p>Best regards</p>
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<p>Jean-Louis Fullsack <br /> <br /><br /><br /><br /></p>
<blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: #ff0000 2px solid;">> Message du 15/11/13 11:48<br />> De : "Carlos A. Afonso" <br />> A : governance@lists.igcaucus.org, "Louis Pouzin (well)" <br />> Copie à : <br />> Objet : Re: [governance] EU Commissioner<br />> <br />> My thoughts on cloud computing (or as a Japanese executive said to us in<br />> a debate here in Rio, "cRowd computing" -- the Japanese idiom does not<br />> have the "L" as much as the Chinese does not have the "R") or cloud<br />> storage is the fashion of the day in the industry. It is nothing more<br />> than doing your processing and/or storage in remote machines, in the<br />> hands of people you have to trust.<br />> <br />> Today storage and processing power are within reach of most<br />> organizations, so the problem which would motivate moving your data to<br />> in effect unknown whereabouts (you do know where the physical servers<br />> are when you hire cloud services, don't you?) is cost of trusted<br />> computer systemns admins and cost of software licensing. The second can<br />> be solved by using FOSS. The first is the Achiles heel for most<br />> companies: today is probably the most expensive component for<br />> maintaining servers & systems in house.<br />> <br />> So you would trust more a remote server service (which you don't even<br />> know where it is located, who is managing, who has access to the<br />> passwords, how the links to these servers are effectively protected, is<br />> the cloud services owner doing data-mining on your data?, is the data<br />> stored in an encrypted form which guarantees outsiders or the local<br />> admin have no way to peek into it?, has the owner been forced by NSA or<br />> CGHQ to open up the servers' innards for them?, has the owner accepted<br />> payments from these agencies for opening things up? etc etc etc) than a<br />> local installation under your control (whatever the vulnerabilities of<br />> your control)? I would not.<br />> <br />> Just now M$ was forced to disclose to the EU that its pipes linking its<br />> cloud centers are not encrypted. OK, would it make any difference if<br />> they were encrypted but M$ has that contract with NSA which etc etc?<br />> <br />> Cloud c & s would make some good sense in a world of saints. But we live<br />> in a real world of demons, to put it in a Machiavellian form.<br />> <br />> Sorry, aunt Neelie...<br />> <br />> --c.a.<br />> <br />> On 11/14/2013 10:09 PM, Louis Pouzin (well) wrote:<br />> > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 9:40 PM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <<br />> > wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de> wrote:<br />> > <br />> >><br />> >> http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-13-922_en.htm<br />> >><br />> >> W<br />> >><br />> >> When .eu was launched in 2005, it was touted as providing a trusted space.<br />> > Eight years later we get the same song with the cloud.<br />> > When will the nebula be launched :-))<br />> > Louis<br />> > - - -<br />> > <br />> <br />> ____________________________________________________________<br />> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br />> governance@lists.igcaucus.org<br />> To be removed from the list, visit:<br />> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing<br />> <br />> For all other list information and functions, see:<br />> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance<br />> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<br />> http://www.igcaucus.org/<br />> <br />> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t<br />></blockquote>