[governance] Tallin Manual - a Cyber Warfare convention?

[Aldo Matteucci]

Dear Dr. POUZIN

A 302 page manual for "cyber warfare"
I'm impressed.

I only have one problem: cyber warfare is a misnomer.

*War*'s aim is "regime change" - territorial occupation or so. It was about
conquest of* immovable property*.
Wars in pre-industrial societies were affairs among extractive elites -
hence subject to rules.

*Raids*, however, to rob movable* property*, were never the object of
international rules. A raider was strung up, and that was that.
The problem the US has, after 9/11, was that they were trying to apply the
rules of war to a raid.

Aldo


On 24 March 2013 17:37, Louis Pouzin (well) <pouzin at well.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
>
>>   As Samuel Morse might have remarked, “What God hath wrought”.
>>
>> A landmark document created at the request of NATO has proposed a set of
>> rules for how international cyberwarfare should be conducted. Written by 20
>> experts in conjunction with the International Committee of the Red Cross
>> and the US Cyber Command, the*Tallinn Manual on the International Law
>> Applicable to Cyber Warfare*<http://issuu.com/nato_ccd_coe/docs/tallinnmanual?mode=embed&layout=http%3A%2F%2Fskin.issuu.com%2Fv%2Flight%2Flayout.xml&showFlipBtn=true>
>>  analyzes the rules of conventional war and applies them to
>> state-sponsored cyberattacks.
>>
>>
>> http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/21/4130740/tallin-manual-on-the-international-law-applicable-to-cyber-warfare
>>
>>  - - -
>>
>
> Thanks Ian for precious links. It seems that time is coming for legal
> definitions of cyberwarfare, in which we are living already. Initiatives
> belong to the powers that be, the only ones with the capacity to follow or
> violate the rules. CS doesn't have much influence, except through
> occasional media power.
>
> Some more frightening documents on real war:
>
>
> http://www.salon.com/2013/02/19/latin_america_territorio_libre_from_the_cia_partner/?source=newsletter&utm_source=contactology&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Salon_Daily%20Newsletter%20%28Premium%29_7_30_110
>
> http://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/projects/globalizing-torture
>
> One may observe that oppressive regimes resort to coded sanitized language
> to mean illegal and criminal activities. This was anticipated by Orwell
> (newspeak), and turned real with soviet labor camp (concentration), nazism
> special treatment (gas chamber), maoism reeducation (deportation), bushism
> and obamism extraordinary rendition (torture), inter alia.
>
> Louis
>
>
>
>
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