[governance] video available - Frank La Rue at New America

Deborah Brown deborah at accessnow.org
Thu Jul 25 17:55:56 EDT 2013


A quick clarification:

The principles Joly linked to are not an EFF submission to PCLOB, but have
been in development for many months now by EFF, Access, Privacy
International, and several other organizations. I think Katitza from EFF is
on this list and can give more background.

Best,
Deborah


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:

> Am Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:03:59 -0400
> schrieb Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com>:
>
> > The EFF has a statement that can be signed onto
> >
> > https://necessaryandproportionate.org/
>
> That statement however is rather weak in regard to the challenges posed
> by the trans-border surveillance practices of NSA and the equivalent
> agencies of other countries.
>
> In particular, it does not express the outrage which international civil
> society IMO needs to communicate to the Privacy and Civil Liberties
> Oversight Board of the USA in view of the current situation.
>
> Greetings,
> Norbert
>
> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
> >
> > > Sala <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Jul 21, 2013, at 3:40 AM, Carolina Rossini
> > > > <carolina.rossini at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Btw, regarding surveillance of the non-US persons, are you guys
> > > > > planning to send comments under this request:
> > > > > http://www.regulations.gov/#!documentDetail;D=PCLOB-2013-0005-0001
> > > > >
> > > > Sala: This is a fantastic idea and we really should consider
> > > > sending our views.
> > >
> > > I agree.
> > >
> > > Here's a first draft for what might become an IGC statement on
> > > this, if we can reach consensus:
> > >
> > > http://igcaucus.org:9001/p/intsurveillance
> > >
> > > (If the IGC fails to reach consensus, I'll find another way to
> > > comment along those lines.)
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Norbert
>
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