[governance] Re: On whistleblowing, mobbing and suppression (was Re: On the seriousness of threats)

[Carlos A. Afonso]

Interesting... this anthropophagic fight of big egos (by a bunch of mostly old-timers of the group, mind you) will lead to nowhere -- and certainly scare off any newcomer.

As dr Fritz would  say to the cowboy at the beginning of "Django Unchained": "Calm down! Calm down!"

--c.a.

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C. A. Afonso

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From: Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> 
Date: 26/04/2013  11:39  (GMT-03:00) 
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org 
Subject: [governance] Re: On whistleblowing, mobbing and suppression (was Re: On the seriousness of threats) 
 
you're doing it again Norbert -- not your place to interpret and base
your censorship on opinion.

btw - did you think before making those incredibly insulting comments
about a professional educator, suggesting they might vindictively
punish a junior over an unrelated disagreement.  Shame on you.  Put
your hat on and ban yourself for a month.

Adam



On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
> Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
>
>> But you added a comment that I was in someway extra guilty because
>> Michael was performing the function of whistle-blower, obviously a
>> sacred role.  As with Milton you added your own interpretation, got
>> rather carried away.
>
> In case someone is interested in reading up on why unfriendly remarks
> directed towards someone who has just acted as a whistle-blower (in the
> broad sense of pointing out that something is going wrong) are much
> more problematic than otherwise similar unfriendly remarks in
> different contexts (such as e.g. in a long-standing relationship of
> people who love to hate each other and who therefore insult each other
> occasionally), there is a lot on that in the literature on mobbing.
>
> Here's one quick link:
>
> Brian Martin and Florencia Peña Saint Martin:
>   Mobbing and Suppression: Footprints of Their Relationships
> Social Medicine, Volume 6, Number 4, May 2012
> http://www.socialmedicine.info/socialmedicine/index.php/socialmedicine/article/download/602/1255
>
>
> Anyway, I think that we have now talked enough about talking, and about
> what can go wrong in talking.
>
> Let's get back to substantive discussions on topics that are more
> directly and more specifically about taking good care of the Internet.
>
> Greetings,
> Norbert
>
> --
> Recommendations for effective and contructive participation in IGC:
> 1. Respond to the content of assertions and arguments, not to the person
> 2. Be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept

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