[governance] Re: On whistleblowing, mobbing and suppression (was Re: On the seriousness of threats)

[Fatima Cambronero]

2013/4/26 Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca>

> Interesting... this anthropophagic fight of big egos (by a bunch of mostly
> old-timers of the group, mind you) will lead to nowhere -- and certainly
> scare off any newcomer.
>

+1

Fatima


>
> As dr Fritz would  say to the cowboy at the beginning of "Django
> Unchained": "Calm down! Calm down!"
>
> --c.a.
>
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> C. A. Afonso
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp>
> Date: 26/04/2013 11:39 (GMT-03:00)
> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> Subject: [governance] Re: On whistleblowing, mobbing and suppression (was
> Re: On the seriousness of threats)
>
>
> you're doing it again Norbert -- not your place to interpret and base
> your censorship on opinion.
>
> btw - did you think before making those incredibly insulting comments
> about a professional educator, suggesting they might vindictively
> punish a junior over an unrelated disagreement.  Shame on you.  Put
> your hat on and ban yourself for a month.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
> > Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
> >
> >> But you added a comment that I was in someway extra guilty because
> >> Michael was performing the function of whistle-blower, obviously a
> >> sacred role.  As with Milton you added your own interpretation, got
> >> rather carried away.
> >
> > In case someone is interested in reading up on why unfriendly remarks
> > directed towards someone who has just acted as a whistle-blower (in the
> > broad sense of pointing out that something is going wrong) are much
> > more problematic than otherwise similar unfriendly remarks in
> > different contexts (such as e.g. in a long-standing relationship of
> > people who love to hate each other and who therefore insult each other
> > occasionally), there is a lot on that in the literature on mobbing.
> >
> > Here's one quick link:
> >
> > Brian Martin and Florencia Peña Saint Martin:
> >   Mobbing and Suppression: Footprints of Their Relationships
> > Social Medicine, Volume 6, Number 4, May 2012
> >
> http://www.socialmedicine.info/socialmedicine/index.php/socialmedicine/article/download/602/1255
> >
> >
> > Anyway, I think that we have now talked enough about talking, and about
> > what can go wrong in talking.
> >
> > Let's get back to substantive discussions on topics that are more
> > directly and more specifically about taking good care of the Internet.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Norbert
> >
> > --
> > Recommendations for effective and contructive participation in IGC:
> > 1. Respond to the content of assertions and arguments, not to the person
> > 2. Be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept
>
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