<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body ><div>Interesting... this anthropophagic fight of big egos (by a bunch of mostly old-timers of the group, mind you) will lead to nowhere -- and certainly scare off any newcomer.</div><div><br></div><div>As dr Fritz would say to the cowboy at the beginning of "Django Unchained": "Calm down! Calm down!"</div><div><br></div><div>--c.a.</div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:100%">------------<br>C. A. Afonso</div></div> <br><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Adam Peake <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> <br>Date: 26/04/2013 11:39 (GMT-03:00) <br>To: governance@lists.igcaucus.org <br>Subject: [governance] Re: On whistleblowing, mobbing and suppression (was Re: On the seriousness of threats) <br> <br><br>you're doing it again Norbert -- not your place to interpret and base<br>your censorship on opinion.<br><br>btw - did you think before making those incredibly insulting comments<br>about a professional educator, suggesting they might vindictively<br>punish a junior over an unrelated disagreement. Shame on you. Put<br>your hat on and ban yourself for a month.<br><br>Adam<br><br><br><br>On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Norbert Bollow <nb@bollow.ch> wrote:<br>> Adam Peake <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> wrote:<br>><br>>> But you added a comment that I was in someway extra guilty because<br>>> Michael was performing the function of whistle-blower, obviously a<br>>> sacred role. As with Milton you added your own interpretation, got<br>>> rather carried away.<br>><br>> In case someone is interested in reading up on why unfriendly remarks<br>> directed towards someone who has just acted as a whistle-blower (in the<br>> broad sense of pointing out that something is going wrong) are much<br>> more problematic than otherwise similar unfriendly remarks in<br>> different contexts (such as e.g. in a long-standing relationship of<br>> people who love to hate each other and who therefore insult each other<br>> occasionally), there is a lot on that in the literature on mobbing.<br>><br>> Here's one quick link:<br>><br>> Brian Martin and Florencia Peña Saint Martin:<br>> Mobbing and Suppression: Footprints of Their Relationships<br>> Social Medicine, Volume 6, Number 4, May 2012<br>> http://www.socialmedicine.info/socialmedicine/index.php/socialmedicine/article/download/602/1255<br>><br>><br>> Anyway, I think that we have now talked enough about talking, and about<br>> what can go wrong in talking.<br>><br>> Let's get back to substantive discussions on topics that are more<br>> directly and more specifically about taking good care of the Internet.<br>><br>> Greetings,<br>> Norbert<br>><br>> --<br>> Recommendations for effective and contructive participation in IGC:<br>> 1. Respond to the content of assertions and arguments, not to the person<br>> 2. Be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept<br><br></body>