[governance] Internet as a commons/ public good

Ian Peter ian.peter at ianpeter.com
Wed Apr 24 00:13:32 EDT 2013


personally i am not sure about end-to-end , but I am not going to block consensus if everyone wants it in.

end to end is probably already dead.

happy with the rest though.



From: parminder 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 1:47 PM
To: McTim 
Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org 
Subject: Re: [governance] Internet as a commons/ public good


On Wednesday 24 April 2013 08:46 AM, McTim wrote:

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:05 PM, parminder mailto:parminder at itforchange.net wrote:
On Wednesday 24 April 2013 07:54 AM, Ian Peter wrote:

I like new text as suggested by Parminder as well – but one quibble

“due democratic processes”. That sounds to me like something governments do
without consultation.

I would prefer multistakeholder processes. But as that means whatever people
want it to mean, and may not be acceptable to everyone. Perhaps something
like

“through processes involving all stakeholder groups” might be a middle
ground.


What about "through democratic processes involving all stakeholder groups".
I would be ok with that if we included:

"through open, bottom-up, transparent, participatory democratic
processes involving all stakeholders".
what about "democratic processes, that are open and transparent, and involve all stakeholders. (also taking note of an offline suggestion in this regard). Also adding 'end to end'. 


The text would then be


"We recognise the Internet to be a global, end-to-end, network of networks comprised of computing devices and processes, and an emergent and emerging social reality. In that sense, it is an intricate combination of hardware, software, protocols, and human intentionality enabling new kinds of social interactions and transactions, brought together by a common set of design principles. The design principles and policies that constitute Internet's governance should be derived through due democratic processes, that are open and transparent, and involve all stakeholders. Such principles and policies must aim at preserving and enhancing the global commons and global public good character of the Internet the combination of which has made previous innovations possible. Therefore, in the face of the growing danger for the Internet experience to be reduced to closed or proprietary online spaces, we urge the preservation and enhancement of the Internet's global commons and public good dimensions."

parminder 







Wasn't it you Parminder who put in the "due democratic processes"
language in the first place? Perhaps I am misremembering.

I'm still choking on the new reality bit however.

MM is correct in that "success of the  internet rests on a creative
combination of both", so we should include end-toendiness somehow.





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