[governance] Ex-White House Official Joins Group Fighting "Excessive" Online Privacy Laws

[parminder]

On Tuesday 09 April 2013 11:45 AM, Bertrand de La Chapelle wrote:
> Parminder,
>
> You wrote:
>
>     /"Coalition for Privacy and Free Trade " is exactly the kind of
>     issue based network that are getting formed. (Bertrand, please note.)/
>
>
> Thanks for flagging me :-) Sorry I did not pick it up earlier.
>
> This coalition is not at all an issue-based governance network of the 
> sort I was alluding to. It is a traditional advocacy group - without 
> taking any sides on the substance of their position. They call 
> themselves a coalition and I think it does not leave room for ambiguity.
>
> Issue-based governance networks need to be multi-stakeholder and, by 
> definition, should include and actors with divergent perspectives and 
> interests (the relevant stakeholders, whatever the criteria are). They 
> also need to have deliberation procedures of sort...


Some clarifications needed here. Are these issue-based governance 
networks voluntary? If so, how do we bring to them those actors who may 
not gain by 'additional' governance of the 'issue'? And if they dont 
come, how do these governance networks enforce their outcomes? I 
understand that we were not dealing with technical governance here ( as 
per your other email) but with core social, political, economic and 
cultural issues......

(BTW, I am reminded how almost all enthusiasm about IGF's potential 
efficacy in the first 2-3 IGFs was based on hopes from its dynamic 
coalitions, and what finally happend to them.)

parminder
>
> I do not accept the argument that the creation of an additional 
> advocacy group undermines the concept of issue-based governance networks.
>
> Best
>
> Bertrand
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:55 PM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net 
> <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>> wrote:
>
>
>     On Monday 01 April 2013 11:26 PM, michael gurstein wrote:
>
>         http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/03/daniel-weitzner-internet-privacy
>         -coalition
>
>         Regulatory capture in action?
>
>         And what better way to ensure regulatory capture at the global
>         level than to
>         ensure that there are no global regulatory frameworks or
>         mechanisms that
>         will ultimately need to be captured?
>
>
>     "Coalition for Privacy and Free Trade " is exactly the kind of
>     issue based network that are getting formed. (Bertrand, please
>     note.) And we know what they are upto. Soon there will be others,
>     that is the trend, like perhaps one led by Shell on green economy,
>     and Nike on labour friendliness.... No, this is not acceptable, We
>     are better off with evolving old fashioned democratic systems from
>     within, with a deepening democracy focus.... We have seen
>     movements, especially in Europe, of a new kind of democratic
>     politics bypassing the existing political party captures - that is
>     where I would put my hopes instead of these dangerous neolib
>     trends. I appeal to the civil society to recognise the dangers
>     that we are headed towards in all this mushy talk of "equality of
>     all stakeholders in decision making" (read, corporate led
>     'governance' systems), and issue based networks as the prime next
>     gen governance paradigm...
>
>     parminder
>
>
>
>         M
>
>
>
>
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