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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Tuesday 09 April 2013 11:45 AM,
Bertrand de La Chapelle wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Parminder,
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<div style=""><i>"Coalition for Privacy and Free Trade " is
exactly the kind of issue based network that are getting
formed. (Bertrand, please note.)</i></div>
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<div>Thanks for flagging me :-) Sorry I did not pick it up
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<div>This coalition is not at all an issue-based governance
network of the sort I was alluding to. It is a traditional
advocacy group - without taking any sides on the substance of
their position. They call themselves a coalition and I think
it does not leave room for ambiguity. </div>
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<div>Issue-based governance networks need to be
multi-stakeholder and, by definition, should include and
actors with divergent perspectives and interests (the relevant
stakeholders, whatever the criteria are). They also need to
have deliberation procedures of sort...<br>
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Some clarifications needed here. Are these issue-based governance
networks voluntary? If so, how do we bring to them those actors who
may not gain by 'additional' governance of the 'issue'? And if they
dont come, how do these governance networks enforce their outcomes?
I understand that we were not dealing with technical governance here
( as per your other email) but with core social, political, economic
and cultural issues......<br>
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(BTW, I am reminded how almost all enthusiasm about IGF's potential
efficacy in the first 2-3 IGFs was based on hopes from its dynamic
coalitions, and what finally happend to them.)<br>
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<div>I do not accept the argument that the creation of an
additional advocacy group undermines the concept of
issue-based governance networks. </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:55 PM,
parminder <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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On Monday 01 April 2013 11:26 PM, michael gurstein
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-coalition<br>
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Regulatory capture in action?<br>
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And what better way to ensure regulatory capture at
the global level than to<br>
ensure that there are no global regulatory frameworks
or mechanisms that<br>
will ultimately need to be captured?<br>
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"Coalition for Privacy and Free Trade " is exactly the
kind of issue based network that are getting formed.
(Bertrand, please note.) And we know what they are upto.
Soon there will be others, that is the trend, like perhaps
one led by Shell on green economy, and Nike on labour
friendliness.... No, this is not acceptable, We are better
off with evolving old fashioned democratic systems from
within, with a deepening democracy focus.... We have seen
movements, especially in Europe, of a new kind of
democratic politics bypassing the existing political party
captures - that is where I would put my hopes instead of
these dangerous neolib trends. I appeal to the civil
society to recognise the dangers that we are headed
towards in all this mushy talk of "equality of all
stakeholders in decision making" (read, corporate led
'governance' systems), and issue based networks as the
prime next gen governance paradigm...<br>
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parminder<br>
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