[governance] 3322.org seized by Microsoft from Chinese DNS service provider

Mon Sep 24 20:23:40 EDT 2012

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Kerry Brown <kerry at kdbsystems.com> wrote:

> My understanding is they redirected "took control" of several subdomains
> of the second level domain 3322.org. This would make them third level
> domains. I agree that theoretically the US courts could try to compel ICANN
> to do something like this at the root level. I don't think that would
> happen for reasons both technical and political. I could very well be wrong.
>
> Kerry Brown
>
> That in itself would threaten the security and stability of the Internet. I
thought that this would be a good time to discuss the potential
ramifications of DNSfiltering and how this affects the Internet and the
ordinary end user. Circle ID on May 26, 2011 had published a paper which
was submitted to US Congress by Experts on the danger of DNS filtering,
see:
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20110525_experts_urge_congress_to_reject_proposed_dns_filtering_protect_ip/

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Norbert Bollow [mailto:nb at bollow.ch]
> > Sent: September-24-12 10:44 AM
> > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> > Cc: Kerry Brown
> > Subject: Re: [governance] 3322.org seized by Microsoft from Chinese DNS
> > service provider
> >
> > Hi Kerry,
> >
> > your response sounds like you may have missed one of the main points
> > about the 3322.org takedown: 3322.org had a role similar to one of the
> ways
> > in which one of the new gTLDs might conceivably be used. I am not talking
> > about a hypothetical demand "to block or redirect one second level domain
> > or several third level domains at the root level", but I'm asking about
> > whether we have any assurance that ICANN won't be subject to a US court
> > order to take down an entire foreign-based gTLD for reasons of non-
> > compliance with US views on how "piracy"
> > should be combated.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Norbert
> >
> > Kerry Brown <kerry at kdbsystems.com> wrote:
> >
> > > To date this hasn't happened. For many reasons, both technical and
> > > political, I think it unlikely to happen. It's easy to change a second
> > > level record in a TLD name server or a third level record in a DNS
> > > host's name server. It's not so easy to block or redirect one second
> > > level domain or several third level domains at the root level.
> > > It would introduce more complexity at the root level.  It can
> > > certainly be done but I think it is unlikely it would be.
> > >
> > > Kerry Brown
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Norbert Bollow [mailto:nb at bollow.ch]
> > > > Sent: September-24-12 9:29 AM
> > > > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> > > > Cc: Kerry Brown
> > > > Subject: Re: [governance] 3322.org seized by Microsoft from Chinese
> > > > DNS service provider
> > > >
> > > > Kerry Brown <kerry at kdbsystems.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I think some successful gTLDs in jurisdictions other than the US
> > > > > may over time solve the problem. Consumers will have a choice of
> > > > > which jurisdiction they want their domain to fall under.
> > > > > They have that now with ccTLDs but more choice is always better.
> > > >
> > > > Do we have any assurance that if a gTLD applies policies that are
> > > > not in line with US law, the same thing that has happened to
> > > > 3322.org won't happen to that gTLD? Isn't ICANN under US
> > > > jurisdiction as much as the .org registry is?
> > > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > > Norbert
> > >
>
>
>
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