[governance] Re: Facebook and the nipplegate: New Yorker temporarily banned

[Ian Peter]

Agree with Marilia. The Paypal actions against Wikileaks stays in my mind as
another example.

Yes, unilateral corporate censorship is a growing problem. But in dealing
with it we have to point out that the dangers of unilateral government
censorship without consultation with other affected jurisdictions presents
similar problems. At the very least, we need some universally agreed to
guiding principles for such actions ­ and this would be in the interests of
corporations, who must be driven crazy dealing with the whims and political
motivations of 180 odd separate nation state entities all demanding separate
actions within their jurisdictions on a network which was not designed to be
able to affect separate national content variations.

Ian Peter


From: Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>
Reply-To: <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>, Marilia Maciel
<mariliamaciel at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:37:19 -0300
To: William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>
Cc: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
Subject: Re: [governance] Re: Facebook and the nipplegate: New Yorker
temporarily banned

Hi Bill, 

What is more important than what is a highly arguable, and, in my opinion,
fruitless debate. Ask any woman who has been engaged in activism on sexual
and reproductive rights the importance of this globally omnipresent
company's censorship on the word "vagina". 

In addition, in my opinion, private censorship can be much more dangerous
exactly because they do not come from imposition (rough power), but from
soft power. To organize and resist soft power and to distinguish where "the
enemy lies" is much harder. Conservative ideas get embedded in our minds
before we have the chance to question them. It is certainly easier to
identify that "chinese firewall is bad". 

I hope we learn to split our attention among these important cases of
censorship more wisely.

Marília

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:24 PM, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> wrote:
> Maybe because the cases pale in comparison to the types of repression said FoE
> fighters tend to focus on, and because people can mobilize to redress them if
> they care enough without having to resort to intergovernmental politics?
> 
> Bill
> 
> On Sep 16, 2012, at 21:07, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> More censorship. From Apple, this time. I wonder why FoE fighters do not seem
>> to care as much when censorship comes from the private sector, which has a
>> much more subtle (and efficient) way to affect standards of right, wrong and
>> morality.
>> 
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/sep/13/naomi-wolf-vagina-apple-itunes-ce
>> nsors
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> A funnier way to continue the discussion about FB policy and their awkward
>>> views on nudity.
>>> 
>>> http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/cartoonists/2012/09/nipplegate-why-the
>>> -new-yorker-cartoon-department-is-about-to-be-banned-from-facebook.html?curr
>>> entPage=all
>>> 
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