[governance] In Multistakeholderism, those who would be Lobbyists become Legislators, & nobody else has a vote

[Baudouin Schombe]

Let us agree in the different approaches:
-the multi-stakeholder approach is the formula that has been and is
regularly required in almost all processes of representation or decision;
-if we consider the democratic dimension of the multi-stakeholder approach, it
is necessary to define a procedure for every country, every community
or different
actors involved in the topic or issue;
-when we accept and agree to the procedure, there is of course in terms of
lobbyist becomes legislator it will also set the rules and the profile of
the person or persons need.

Baudouin

2012/10/26 Norbert Klein <nhklein at gmx.net>

>  On 10/24/2012 9:12 AM, Paul Lehto wrote:
>
> The subject line says it most succinctly: In Multistakeholderism, those
> who would be Lobbyists become Legislators, & nobody else has a vote.
>
> In a democracy, it is a scandal that lobbyists have so much influence that
> they even write the drafts of laws.  But in multistakeholder situations
> they take that scandal to a whole new level:  those who would be lobbyists
> in a democracy (corporations, experts, civil society) become the
> legislators themselves,
>
>
> No.
>
> There is not only ONE stakeholder who becomes THE legislator - but there
> are MULTI stakeholders. In the absence and impossibility of taking
> universal votes on IG issues, I am not surprised about - and I share - the
> opinion of many that multi-stakeholder systems are the most practical ones
> that avoid that ONE stakeholder decides everything, and gives many opinions
> access to public discussion, even while decisions are organized not as a
> result of a vote in a multi-stakeholder forum.
>
> Norbert Klein
> Phnom Penh/Cambodia
>
> and dispense with all public elections and not only write the laws but
> pass them, enforce them, and in some cases even set up courts of
> arbitration that are usually conditioned on waiving the right to go to the
> court system set up by democracies.
>
> A vote is just a minimum requirement of justice. Without a vote, law is
> just force inflicted by the wealthy and powerful. Multistakeholderism is a
> coup d'etat against democracy by those who would merely be lobbyists in a
> democratic system.  So yes, I think it is misleading at best to use the
> word "democratic" in reference to multistakeholder systems.
>
> Paul R. Lehto, J.D.
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