[governance] In Multistakeholderism, those who would be Lobbyists become Legislators, & nobody else has a vote

[Paul Lehto]

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:

>  So you take a statement of mine that notes an absence of mobilization
> from either business or civil society for CIRP, and you distort it into a
> claim that ****
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>    * the only opinions that matter are those of business, *
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>  dishonest, pointless to discuss further
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Milton, you were defining "popular support" not simply for CIRP purposes -
for why would you introduce a double standard in the definition of popular
support - one definition for CIRP and one more general definition?   This
discussion has much broader ramifications and importance.  Besides, you are
a professor and a native speaker of English and presumably in control of
your words and writing.

If it were merely a question of my "dishonesty" you could quote a
correction from your writing of the last few days and assert you wrote
nothing on the point inconsistent with that and then perhaps my dishonesty
would be proved.  Alternatively, you could perhaps clarify/state your true
view about popular support and MS governance and its impact more clearly.
You have also declined to do that at any reasonable length.  Please note
that, while you state that this is just about CIRP, the title of this
thread has nothing to do with CIRP and you have voluntarily participated.

Your autosig below indicates expertise in internet governance more
generally, so it is hardly outside of your professed field to address these
issues (as opposed to CIRP narrowly speaking, regarding which your
expertise is quite doubtful since it is specific). It is to be expected
that experts in internet governance be conversant and think deeply about
the most fundamental issues of importance in governance, and democratic
legitimacy is most certainly one of those most important issues.

I'm aware from general experience that human beings very rarely admit an
insufficiency and change their mind on the spot.  It takes time - and
probably it should take time - to reconsider one's view and perhaps change
it.  A person of your caliber and governance expertise should surely be
conversant with democratic representativity and the like, so I will take
your replies here as an indication that you will be either rethinking or
thinking more deeply about your views, instead of just rethinking your
participation on this important subject on this listserv.   It seems you
need to do so, even if only to be better able to defend your views.

Paul Lehto, J.D.

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> Milton L. Mueller****
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