<br>On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Milton L Mueller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">So you take a statement of mine that notes an absence of mobilization from either business or civil society for CIRP, and you distort it into a claim that
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">dishonest, pointless to discuss further</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Milton, you were defining "popular support" not simply for CIRP purposes - for why would you introduce a double standard in the definition of popular support - one definition for CIRP and one more general definition? This discussion has much broader ramifications and importance. Besides, you are a professor and a native speaker of English and presumably in control of your words and writing.<br>
<br>If it were merely a question of my "dishonesty" you could quote a correction from your writing of the last few days and assert you wrote nothing on the point inconsistent with that and then perhaps my dishonesty would be proved. Alternatively, you could perhaps clarify/state your true view about popular support and MS governance and its impact more clearly. You have also declined to do that at any reasonable length. Please note that, while you state that this is just about CIRP, the title of this thread has nothing to do with CIRP and you have voluntarily participated. <br>
<br>Your autosig below indicates expertise in internet governance more generally, so it is hardly outside of your professed field to address these issues (as opposed to CIRP narrowly speaking, regarding which your expertise is quite doubtful since it is specific). It is to be expected that experts in internet governance be conversant and think deeply about the most fundamental issues of importance in governance, and democratic legitimacy is most certainly one of those most important issues. <br>
<br>I'm aware from general experience that human beings very rarely admit an insufficiency and change their mind on the spot. It takes time - and probably it should take time - to reconsider one's view and perhaps change it. A person of your caliber and governance expertise should surely be conversant with democratic representativity and the like, so I will take your replies here as an indication that you will be either rethinking or thinking more deeply about your views, instead of just rethinking your participation on this important subject on this listserv. It seems you need to do so, even if only to be better able to defend your views.<br>
<br>Paul Lehto, J.D.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Milton L. Mueller<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</blockquote></div><br>-- <br>Paul R Lehto, J.D.<br>P.O. Box 1 <br>Ishpeming, MI 49849 <br><a href="mailto:lehto.paul@gmail.com" target="_blank">lehto.paul@gmail.com</a><br>906-204-4965 (cell)<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>