[governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor
Milton L Mueller
mueller at syr.edu
Mon Mar 5 15:00:33 EST 2012
Veni contacted Stratfor, that much is clear. (See initial email text below) "Potential for future cooperation" is typical consultant-speak for some kind of a deal.
It is a good example of how certain people participate in ICANN: as a channel for networking to advance their own personal power and income.
We should never be naïve enough to think that those kind of people don't play a major role in open institutions (or closed ones, for that matter).
--MM
From: Veni Markovski [mailto:veni at veni.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:39 AM
To: Fred Burton
Subject: Re: Hi
Hi.
I saw Strafor's George Fridman being quoted in the New York Times on the
situation in Georgia, and that triggered my interest, as I have a lot of
contacts on different levels in Russia/CIS/Black Sea region.
I would be thankful if you could point me to someone at Stratfor, who is
dealing with the region, so that we can exchange some information, and see
if there might be potential for some future cooperation.
Would it be possible to talk to someone over the phone? My phone is
646-873-7708
Thanks.
From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 1:18 PM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Petko Kolev
Cc: Paul Lehto; McTim
Subject: Re: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor
But is that enough to insinuate that the leak came from him? Could someone have hacked into his mailbox or sent the email from his government mailing address with the intention of destroying his reputation?
Would a reasonable person intending to send information do so from a public address which is subject to internal scrutiny and mechanisms?
Assuming that there was a deliberate move to destroy Veni, what I am interested in is what is the reason behind targeting Veni and what is the "unseen play" that "someone" does'nt want us to "see".
Hmmmm
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Petko Kolev <petko.kolev49 at gmail.com<mailto:petko.kolev49 at gmail.com>> wrote:
Here is an English translation of the original article:
http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=137218
People in Bulgaria doesn`t seem to care about how Statfor describes
Veni (imo, its ludicrous, yes), but care about what he might have done
during his affiliation with the "private CIA", because in the same
time he was an adviser to the Bulgarian president and to the minister
of IT. For example, he contacted Statfor from a governmental mailbox.
(http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/558496_email-of-fred-burton-.html)
Cheers,
Petko
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Paul Lehto <lehto.paul at gmail.com<mailto:lehto.paul at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Unless the authenticity of the Stratfor documents is attacked (and I'm not
> aware that it is being attacked) then no matter how "ludicrous" it is, or
> appears to be, it nevertheless reveals the processes of the Stratfor
> organization that seems to style itself as a private CIA, specifically as
> these processes touch upon internet governance, even including discussion of
> Veni (a member of this list for many years).
>
> Whether it's ludicrous or not, it's relevant to what's happening, and
> reveals the (messed up) ways Stratfor thinks about internet governance and
> then presumably advises its high profile client list accordingly. These
> clients are paying Stratfor good money for advice about internet governance
> and other issues.
>
> Just think, Stratfor could have made more money and assembled better advice
> about internet governance by cutting and pasting from this listserv. :)
>
> Paul Lehto, J.D.
>
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:18 AM, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com<mailto:dogwallah at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On 3/2/12, Petko Kolev <petko.kolev49 at gmail.com<mailto:petko.kolev49 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > Might be interesting -
>> >
>> > http://domainincite.com/icann-staffer-linked-to-hacked-intelligence-firm/
>>
>> Might be, if it wasn't ludicrous...Veni was a member of this list for
>> many years, not a likely activity for a "Bulgarian billionaire
>> telecommunications oligarch".
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> McTim
>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
>> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
>>
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