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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Veni contacted Stratfor, that much is clear. (See initial email text below) "Potential for future cooperation" is typical consultant-speak for some kind of
a deal.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It is a good example of how certain people participate in ICANN: as a channel for networking to advance their own personal power and income.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We should never be naïve enough to think that those kind of people don't play a major role in open institutions (or closed ones, for that matter).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">--MM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From: Veni Markovski [mailto:veni@veni.com]<br>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:39 AM<br>
To: Fred Burton<br>
Subject: Re: Hi<br>
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Hi.<br>
I saw Strafor's George Fridman being quoted in the New York Times on the<br>
situation in Georgia, and that triggered my interest, as I have a lot of<br>
contacts on different levels in Russia/CIS/Black Sea region.<br>
I would be thankful if you could point me to someone at Stratfor, who is<br>
dealing with the region, so that we can exchange some information, and see<br>
if there might be potential for some future cooperation.<br>
<br>
Would it be possible to talk to someone over the phone? My phone is<br>
646-873-7708<br>
<br>
Thanks.<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 03, 2012 1:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> governance@lists.igcaucus.org; Petko Kolev<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Paul Lehto; McTim<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But is that enough to insinuate that the leak came from him? Could someone have hacked into his mailbox or sent the email from his government mailing address with the intention of destroying his reputation?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Would a reasonable person intending to send information do so from a public address which is subject to internal scrutiny and mechanisms?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Assuming that there was a deliberate move to destroy Veni, what I am interested in is what is the reason behind targeting Veni and what is the "unseen play" that "someone" does'nt want us to "see".<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hmmmm<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Petko Kolev <<a href="mailto:petko.kolev49@gmail.com">petko.kolev49@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Here is an English translation of the original article:<br>
<a href="http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=137218" target="_blank">http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=137218</a><br>
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People in Bulgaria doesn`t seem to care about how Statfor describes<br>
Veni (imo, its ludicrous, yes), but care about what he might have done<br>
during his affiliation with the "private CIA", because in the same<br>
time he was an adviser to the Bulgarian president and to the minister<br>
of IT. For example, he contacted Statfor from a governmental mailbox.<br>
(<a href="http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/558496_email-of-fred-burton-.html" target="_blank">http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/558496_email-of-fred-burton-.html</a>)<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Petko<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Paul Lehto <<a href="mailto:lehto.paul@gmail.com">lehto.paul@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Unless the authenticity of the Stratfor documents is attacked (and I'm not<br>
> aware that it is being attacked) then no matter how "ludicrous" it is, or<br>
> appears to be, it nevertheless reveals the processes of the Stratfor<br>
> organization that seems to style itself as a private CIA, specifically as<br>
> these processes touch upon internet governance, even including discussion of<br>
> Veni (a member of this list for many years).<br>
><br>
> Whether it's ludicrous or not, it's relevant to what's happening, and<br>
> reveals the (messed up) ways Stratfor thinks about internet governance and<br>
> then presumably advises its high profile client list accordingly. These<br>
> clients are paying Stratfor good money for advice about internet governance<br>
> and other issues.<br>
><br>
> Just think, Stratfor could have made more money and assembled better advice<br>
> about internet governance by cutting and pasting from this listserv. :)<br>
><br>
> Paul Lehto, J.D.<br>
><br>
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:18 AM, McTim <<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On 3/2/12, Petko Kolev <<a href="mailto:petko.kolev49@gmail.com">petko.kolev49@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > Might be interesting -<br>
>> ><br>
>> > <a href="http://domainincite.com/icann-staffer-linked-to-hacked-intelligence-firm/" target="_blank">
http://domainincite.com/icann-staffer-linked-to-hacked-intelligence-firm/</a><br>
>><br>
>> Might be, if it wasn't ludicrous...Veni was a member of this list for<br>
>> many years, not a likely activity for a “Bulgarian billionaire<br>
>> telecommunications oligarch”.<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>><br>
>> McTim<br>
>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A<br>
>> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br>
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