[governance] FW: [liberationtech] Chinese preparing for a "Autonomous Internet" ?

[michael gurstein]

For the technically minded here is the link to China's document to the IETF
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-diao-aip-dns-00
 
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On Sunday 17 June 2012 07:37 PM, michael gurstein wrote: 

If I am reading this below correctly...



One possible effect of an Internet governance system which refuses to

"internationalize" as per the current discussion is one that fractures...

Not to say that the regimes in certain countries wouldn't try to force a

fracture in any case but just to say that the refusal to allow any

"flexibility" in the areas of internationalization of governance makes such

fractures very very much more likely and globally would increase support

for/weaken opposition to such developments.

  


Exactly so, Mike. Those who have consistently refused to pay heed to the
genuine concerns of developing countries, and somehow unilaterally decided
that this is not the time for global agreements (which alone can save, or is
it already could have saved, a global Internet), may hopefully now begin to
realise their folly.

 When things were still open, and much of the processes and capabilities in
non gov hands, was, and maybe still is, the best time to negotiate using
this 'power' for a global open Internet. Even to have agreed to a few clear
globally accepted principles for the Internet would have committed (or
'trapped) the major actors to a global Internet. For instance, I know, five
or six years ago, even China was ready to come to the table to talk about
some global principles, while now it simply refuses to have anything much to
do even with a UN hearing on enhanced cooperation. People may remember the
early days when China actually participated in the IGF with considerable
enthusiasm. One can easily see the slide, and I think many apparently good
thinking people (CS, generally) need also to take a good part of the
responsibility for this. 

Am reminded what I once read in a novel - the world was never saved by its
good people, because the good people wont go to the lengths needed to save
the world. 

parminder 



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Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:04 AM

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Subject: [liberationtech] Chinese preparing for a "Autonomous Internet" ?





Hi all,



i wanted to notice that there is a new internet draft in IETF that should

make us think on the chinese government respect strategies to internet

governance issues.



DNS Extension for Autonomous Internet(AIP)

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-diao-aip-dns-00



This proposal by China Telecom, China Mobile & Guangdong Commercial College

propose.



Even if we know that "root servers" are very well distributed across the

world / countries trough a collaborative system, chinese see this as a

"central control".



From Introduction on Root DNS:

"  But its central control

   method is not suitable to autonomy and scalability and can't keep up

   with the fast development of Internet. To national internet network,

   owning its independent root DNS server and realize autonomy in

   Internet is a problem not only for the cost but also for the

   technical difficulty. It is almost impossible in current DNS

   architecture."



From AIP DNS Architecture:

  "In order to realize the transition from Internet to Autonomous

   Internet, each partition of current Internet should first realize

   possible self-government and gradually reduce its dependence on the

   foreign domain names, such as COM, NET et al."



So basically the chinese play is not of being part of a collaborative

internet, but driving strategically the direction to become an independent

island in the world.



-naif

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