[governance] FW: [liberationtech] Chinese preparing for a "Autonomous Internet" ?

[parminder]

On Sunday 17 June 2012 07:37 PM, michael gurstein wrote:
> If I am reading this below correctly...
>
> One possible effect of an Internet governance system which refuses to
> "internationalize" as per the current discussion is one that fractures...
> Not to say that the regimes in certain countries wouldn't try to force a
> fracture in any case but just to say that the refusal to allow any
> "flexibility" in the areas of internationalization of governance makes such
> fractures very very much more likely and globally would increase support
> for/weaken opposition to such developments.
>    

Exactly so, Mike. Those who have consistently refused to pay heed to the 
genuine concerns of developing countries, and somehow unilaterally 
decided that this is not the time for global agreements (which alone can 
save, or is it already could have saved, a global Internet), may 
hopefully now begin to realise their folly.

  When things were still open, and much of the processes and 
capabilities in non gov hands, was, and maybe still is, the best time to 
negotiate using this 'power' for a global open Internet. Even to have 
agreed to a few clear globally accepted principles for the Internet 
would have committed (or 'trapped) the major actors to a global 
Internet. For instance, I know, five or six years ago, even China was 
ready to come to the table to talk about some global principles, while 
now it simply refuses to have anything much to do even with a UN hearing 
on enhanced cooperation. People may remember the early days when China 
actually participated in the IGF with considerable enthusiasm. One can 
easily see the slide, and I think many apparently good thinking people 
(CS, generally) need also to take a good part of the responsibility for 
this.

Am reminded what I once read in a novel - the world was never saved by 
its good people, because the good people wont go to the lengths needed 
to save the world.

parminder

> M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: liberationtech-bounces at lists.stanford.edu
> [mailto:liberationtech-bounces at lists.stanford.edu] On Behalf Of Fabio
> Pietrosanti (naif)
> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:04 AM
> To: Liberation Technologies
> Subject: [liberationtech] Chinese preparing for a "Autonomous Internet" ?
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> i wanted to notice that there is a new internet draft in IETF that should
> make us think on the chinese government respect strategies to internet
> governance issues.
>
> DNS Extension for Autonomous Internet(AIP)
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-diao-aip-dns-00
>
> This proposal by China Telecom, China Mobile&  Guangdong Commercial College
> propose.
>
> Even if we know that "root servers" are very well distributed across the
> world / countries trough a collaborative system, chinese see this as a
> "central control".
>
>  From Introduction on Root DNS:
> "  But its central control
>     method is not suitable to autonomy and scalability and can't keep up
>     with the fast development of Internet. To national internet network,
>     owning its independent root DNS server and realize autonomy in
>     Internet is a problem not only for the cost but also for the
>     technical difficulty. It is almost impossible in current DNS
>     architecture."
>
>  From AIP DNS Architecture:
>    "In order to realize the transition from Internet to Autonomous
>     Internet, each partition of current Internet should first realize
>     possible self-government and gradually reduce its dependence on the
>     foreign domain names, such as COM, NET et al."
>
> So basically the chinese play is not of being part of a collaborative
> internet, but driving strategically the direction to become an independent
> island in the world.
>
> -naif
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