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On Sunday 17 June 2012 07:37 PM, michael gurstein wrote:
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One possible effect of an Internet governance system which refuses to
"internationalize" as per the current discussion is one that fractures...
Not to say that the regimes in certain countries wouldn't try to force a
fracture in any case but just to say that the refusal to allow any
"flexibility" in the areas of internationalization of governance makes such
fractures very very much more likely and globally would increase support
for/weaken opposition to such developments.
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Exactly so, Mike. Those who have consistently refused to pay heed to
the genuine concerns of developing countries, and somehow unilaterally
decided that this is not the time for global agreements (which alone
can save, or is it already could have saved, a global Internet), may
hopefully now begin to realise their folly.<br>
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When things were still open, and much of the processes and
capabilities in non gov hands, was, and maybe still is, the best time
to negotiate using this 'power' for a global open Internet. Even to
have agreed to a few clear globally accepted principles for the
Internet would have committed (or 'trapped) the major actors to a
global Internet. For instance, I know, five or six years ago, even
China was ready to come to the table to talk about some global
principles, while now it simply refuses to have anything much to do
even with a UN hearing on enhanced cooperation. People may remember the
early days when China actually participated in the IGF with
considerable enthusiasm. One can easily see the slide, and I think many
apparently good thinking people (CS, generally) need also to take a
good part of the responsibility for this. <br>
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Am reminded what I once read in a novel - the world was never saved by
its good people, because the good people wont go to the lengths needed
to save the world. <br>
<br>
parminder <br>
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-----Original Message-----
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:liberationtech-bounces@lists.stanford.edu">liberationtech-bounces@lists.stanford.edu</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:liberationtech-bounces@lists.stanford.edu">mailto:liberationtech-bounces@lists.stanford.edu</a>] On Behalf Of Fabio
Pietrosanti (naif)
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:04 AM
To: Liberation Technologies
Subject: [liberationtech] Chinese preparing for a "Autonomous Internet" ?
Hi all,
i wanted to notice that there is a new internet draft in IETF that should
make us think on the chinese government respect strategies to internet
governance issues.
DNS Extension for Autonomous Internet(AIP)
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-diao-aip-dns-00">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-diao-aip-dns-00</a>
This proposal by China Telecom, China Mobile & Guangdong Commercial College
propose.
Even if we know that "root servers" are very well distributed across the
world / countries trough a collaborative system, chinese see this as a
"central control".
>From Introduction on Root DNS:
" But its central control
method is not suitable to autonomy and scalability and can't keep up
with the fast development of Internet. To national internet network,
owning its independent root DNS server and realize autonomy in
Internet is a problem not only for the cost but also for the
technical difficulty. It is almost impossible in current DNS
architecture."
>From AIP DNS Architecture:
"In order to realize the transition from Internet to Autonomous
Internet, each partition of current Internet should first realize
possible self-government and gradually reduce its dependence on the
foreign domain names, such as COM, NET et al."
So basically the chinese play is not of being part of a collaborative
internet, but driving strategically the direction to become an independent
island in the world.
-naif
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