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face=Arial>For the technically minded here is the link to China's
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Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org
[mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>parminder<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 18, 2012 2:00 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
governance@lists.igcaucus.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [governance] FW:
[liberationtech] Chinese preparing for a "Autonomous Internet"
?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT><BR>On Sunday 17 June 2012 07:37 PM, michael
gurstein wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:CE4436C7525948FCB9AE4DC092A3F63B@UserVAIO type="cite"><PRE wrap="">If I am reading this below correctly...
One possible effect of an Internet governance system which refuses to
"internationalize" as per the current discussion is one that fractures...
Not to say that the regimes in certain countries wouldn't try to force a
fracture in any case but just to say that the refusal to allow any
"flexibility" in the areas of internationalization of governance makes such
fractures very very much more likely and globally would increase support
for/weaken opposition to such developments.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Exactly so, Mike. Those who have consistently refused
to pay heed to the genuine concerns of developing countries, and somehow
unilaterally decided that this is not the time for global agreements (which
alone can save, or is it already could have saved, a global Internet), may
hopefully now begin to realise their folly.<BR><BR> When things were
still open, and much of the processes and capabilities in non gov hands, was,
and maybe still is, the best time to negotiate using this 'power' for a global
open Internet. Even to have agreed to a few clear globally accepted principles
for the Internet would have committed (or 'trapped) the major actors to a
global Internet. For instance, I know, five or six years ago, even China was
ready to come to the table to talk about some global principles, while now it
simply refuses to have anything much to do even with a UN hearing on enhanced
cooperation. People may remember the early days when China actually
participated in the IGF with considerable enthusiasm. One can easily see the
slide, and I think many apparently good thinking people (CS, generally) need
also to take a good part of the responsibility for this. <BR><BR>Am reminded
what I once read in a novel - the world was never saved by its good people,
because the good people wont go to the lengths needed to save the world.
<BR><BR>parminder <BR><BR>
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-----Original Message-----
From: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:liberationtech-bounces@lists.stanford.edu">liberationtech-bounces@lists.stanford.edu</A>
[<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:liberationtech-bounces@lists.stanford.edu">mailto:liberationtech-bounces@lists.stanford.edu</A>] On Behalf Of Fabio
Pietrosanti (naif)
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:04 AM
To: Liberation Technologies
Subject: [liberationtech] Chinese preparing for a "Autonomous Internet" ?
Hi all,
i wanted to notice that there is a new internet draft in IETF that should
make us think on the chinese government respect strategies to internet
governance issues.
DNS Extension for Autonomous Internet(AIP)
<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-diao-aip-dns-00">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-diao-aip-dns-00</A>
This proposal by China Telecom, China Mobile & Guangdong Commercial College
propose.
Even if we know that "root servers" are very well distributed across the
world / countries trough a collaborative system, chinese see this as a
"central control".
From Introduction on Root DNS:
" But its central control
method is not suitable to autonomy and scalability and can't keep up
with the fast development of Internet. To national internet network,
owning its independent root DNS server and realize autonomy in
Internet is a problem not only for the cost but also for the
technical difficulty. It is almost impossible in current DNS
architecture."
From AIP DNS Architecture:
"In order to realize the transition from Internet to Autonomous
Internet, each partition of current Internet should first realize
possible self-government and gradually reduce its dependence on the
foreign domain names, such as COM, NET et al."
So basically the chinese play is not of being part of a collaborative
internet, but driving strategically the direction to become an independent
island in the world.
-naif
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