AW: [governance] [] US, UK and Canada refuse to sign UN's internet treaty

Suresh Ramasubramanian suresh at hserus.net
Sun Dec 23 05:16:21 EST 2012


Even spammers do have a commercial, though illegal, motive 

Whatever operating definition it is needs to be short, crisp and general enough 

Besides which that dates back to say 2004 when bots and phishing were at least a manageable problem 

--srs (htc one x)


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From: "Roland Perry" <roland at internetpolicyagency.com>
To: <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
Subject: AW: [governance] [] US, UK and Canada refuse to sign UN's internet treaty
Date: Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:30 PM


In message <010301cde0ac$c9f81d50$5de857f0$@hellmonds>, at 02:28:18 on 
Sun, 23 Dec 2012, Peter H. Hellmonds <peter.hellmonds at hellmonds.eu> 
writes
>In ITU RESOLUTION 130 (Rev. Guadalajara, 2010)
>http://www.itu.int/osg/csd/intgov/resoultions_2010/PP-10/RESOLUTION_130.pdf
>on "Strengthening the role of ITU in building confidence and security in the
>use of information and communication technologies", there is a reference
>saying "that although there are no universally agreed upon definitions of
>spam and other terms in this sphere, spam was characterized by ITU-T Study
>Group 2, at its June 2006 session, as a term commonly used to describe
>unsolicited electronic bulk communications over e-mail or mobile messaging
>(SMS, MMS), usually with the objective of marketing commercial products or
>services"
>
>It may not be a treaty or a standard, but exemplifies the way this is
>considered.
>
>Is this helpful to the discussion?

The problem with that definition is that it's about "good spam" (for 
want of a better term) which is the variety which I characterise as from 
"clueless marketers" who think it's a good way to publicise their 
otherwise legitimate products.

There's also "bad spam" which has a criminal payload. Often it's a 
phishing attempt (to get people to reveal passwords), but it can also be 
used to send people to sites carrying drive-by-malware, offering 
potentially counterfeit pharmaceuticals (where the international trade 
of the real thing is banned as well), or enticing people into more 
conventional scams such as 419 (advance fee fraud).

Additionally there's the spam which is designed to build "sucker[1] 
lists" of people who respond to spam emails, for sale to other spammers.

Yet another category is excessively off-topic or over-enthusiastically 
cc'd or cross-posted emails from colleagues (or other list members), 
although I wish there was another word for it ("noise" perhaps) because 
almost no "anti-spam" solution attempts to stop what's at worst a severe 
breach of etiquette.

[1] Sucker - A person who is easily deceived
-- 
Roland Perry

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