[governance] RE: Internet Society's Statement Addressing Reported Attacks Against the ITU Website

michael gurstein gurstein at gmail.com
Fri Dec 7 12:36:30 EST 2012


Thanks John, for pointing to the "Anonymous" screed and indicating that the
"Attacks Against the ITU Website" should probably be seen rather more in the
context of "Direct Action <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_action> "
than of an externally instigated "lynch mob
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynch_mob> ".

 

Also, BTB, the "Anonymous" screed that you point to is very interesting in
itself (and dare I say rather more useful than almost all of the various
anti-ITU interventions including that from ISOC in that it actually ties its
comments back into a framework other than vituperative anti-ITU (and by
implication anti-UN) rhetorical flourishes and into a larger analysis of the
necessarily evolving broader context of global governance). 

 

Their analysis and prescriptions aren't one's I necessarily agree with, but
they are contributions to that larger discussion that unfortunately the
overblown rhetoric of the last several months has served only to obscure--in
this way serving should I say, and perhaps not incidentally, the interests
of certain national and corporate entities.

 

M

 

From: John Curran [mailto:jcurran at istaff.org] 
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 8:01 AM
To: michael gurstein
Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
Subject: Re: Internet Society's Statement Addressing Reported Attacks
Against the ITU Website

 

On Dec 7, 2012, at 10:14 AM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:

(Regarding Sally Wentworth's "Please take note of the below statement from
ISOC with regards to reported attacks against the ITU Website during the
WCIT.")

 

It is extremely difficult to stop a lynch mob.

 

It is important keep in mind that the number of machines in a DDoS attack
does not 

equal the number of actual actors; i.e. 100 thousand people protesting by
gathering 

in a city square is a definitely a demonstration of civil empowerment,
whereas 100 

thousand machines performing a denial of service attack against a web site
could

 be just three upset people with the right set of tools at their disposal.

 

As some of the statements explaining the need for such attacks would imply
that

it is being done to protect the existing system (including ICANN, ISOC, &
RIRs)

<http://legionnet.inc.nl.eu.org/2012/12/stop-madness-anonymous-counterpropos
al.html>,

it is perfectly reasonable for ISOC to issue a statement indicating that
closing down

communications as a protest is both counterproductive and contrary to the
very

idea of open MS participation for all.

 

FYI,

/John 

 

Disclaimers: My views alone.  Websites which contain these views are not
responsible

for their content and should not be attacked solely on that basis.  Coming
up with other

pretenses for vigilate action against such websites is left as an exercise
for the reader.

 

 

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