[governance] Tangential (On Exceptionalism Wikileaks) America's vassal acts decisively and illegally

[Carlos Vera Quintana]

Under several national laws including ecuadorian and most latinamerican, There is not a case against Assange as under swedish law


Carlos Vera

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El 19/08/2012, a las 6:19, Chaitanya Dhareshwar <chaitanyabd at gmail.com> escribió:

> So if you just look at someone funny you could be legally liable as per Swedish law? Just to clarify.
>  
> -C
> 
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Dominique Lacroix <dl at panamo.eu> wrote:
> Rape? Charged?
> 
> 1. Assange is not (yet) charged. The judge only wants to ask him some questions. Telecom provide some means, indeed...
> 2. Rape? Perhaps some of us on this list, men AND women, are rapers at a Swedish sense:
> 
> "Under Swedish law, there are legal gradations of the definition of rape.
> There is the most serious kind, involving major violence.
> But below that there is the concept of 'regular rape', still involving violence but not violence of the utmost horror.
> And below that there is the idea of 'unlawful coercion'. Talking generally, and not about the Assange case, this might involve putting emotional pressure on someone.
> 
> The three categories involve prison sentences of 10, six and four years respectively.
> The lawyer for the two women who have complained against Mr Assange will not spell out the details because he says that would give too much away to the accused man. But he does indicate that it is a four-year sentence that Mr Assange could expect, indicating that he is suspected of this third, less serious category."
> 
> And the great conclusion is:
> 
> "The attitude towards rape in Sweden - informed by a strong sense of women's rights - means that it is more likely to be reported to police.
> Some 53 rape offences are reported per 100,000 people, the highest rate in Europe.
> The figures may reflect a higher number of actual rapes committed but it seems more likely that tough attitudes and a broader definition of the crime are more significant factors."
> 
> See: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11946652
> 
> Isn't it a bit unbalanced, facing whistleblowers issue?
> 
> Yes, Adam, CIA or not CIA, this case seems to me two Internet Governance issues. 
> - Lawful here, unlawful there.
> - Whistleblowers right at the Digital age.
> 
> How would you deal with these questions?
> 
> @+, Dominique
> 
> Dominique Lacroix
> Société européenne de l'Internet
> http://www.ies-france.eu
> +33 (0)6 63 24 39 14
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Le 19/08/12 12:28, Fahd A. Batayneh a écrit :
>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:24 AM, Ginger           Paque <ginger at paque.net> wrote:
>> I admire Assange. I am glad he has the courage to carry out his WikiLeaks work. I don't think he should be persecuted, or face politically motivated harassment or charge.
>> I don't think being a legitimate social hero allows him to avoid facing charges of rape if the are legitimate.
>> 
>> Ginger
>> 
>> That makes us 2 Ginger. ROCK ON!
>> 
>> Fahd 
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