[governance] Tangential (On Exceptionalism Wikileaks) America's vassal acts decisively and illegally

Chaitanya Dhareshwar chaitanyabd at gmail.com
Sun Aug 19 07:19:08 EDT 2012


So if you just look at someone funny you could be legally liable as per
Swedish law? Just to clarify.

-C

On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Dominique Lacroix <dl at panamo.eu> wrote:

>  Rape? Charged?
>
> 1. Assange is not (yet) charged. The judge only wants to ask him some
> questions. Telecom provide some means, indeed...
> 2. Rape? Perhaps some of us on this list, men AND women, are rapers at a
> Swedish sense:
>
> *"Under Swedish law, there are legal gradations of the definition of rape.
> There is the most serious kind, involving major violence.
> But below that there is the concept of 'regular rape', still involving
> violence but not violence of the utmost horror.
> And below that there is the idea of 'unlawful coercion'. Talking
> generally, and not about the Assange case, this might involve putting
> emotional pressure on someone.*
>
> *The three categories involve prison sentences of 10, six and four yearsrespectively.
> The lawyer for the two women who have complained against Mr Assange will
> not spell out the details because he says that would give too much away to
> the accused man. But he does indicate that it is a four-year sentence that
> Mr Assange could expect, indicating that he is suspected of this third,
> less serious category."
> *
>
> And the great conclusion is:
>
> "*The attitude towards rape in Sweden - informed by a strong sense of
> women's rights - means that it is more likely to be reported to police.
> Some 53 rape offences are reported per 100,000 people, the highest rate in
> Europe.
> The figures may reflect a higher number of actual rapes committed but it
> seems more likely that tough attitudes and a broader definition of the
> crime are more significant factors.*"
> See: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11946652
>
> Isn't it a bit unbalanced, facing whistleblowers issue?
>
> Yes, Adam, CIA or not CIA, this case seems to me two Internet Governance
> issues.
> - Lawful here, unlawful there.
> - Whistleblowers right at the Digital age.
>
> How would you deal with these questions?
>
> @+, Dominique
>
> Dominique Lacroix
> Société européenne de l'Internethttp://www.ies-france.eu
> +33 (0)6 63 24 39 14
>
>
>
>
>
> Le 19/08/12 12:28, Fahd A. Batayneh a écrit :
>
>  On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:24 AM, Ginger Paque <ginger at paque.net> wrote:
>
>> I admire Assange. I am glad he has the courage to carry out his WikiLeaks
>> work. I don't think he should be persecuted, or face politically motivated
>> harassment or charge.
>> I don't think being a legitimate social hero allows him to avoid facing
>> charges of rape if the are legitimate.
>>
>> Ginger
>
>
>  That makes us 2 Ginger. ROCK ON!
>
>  Fahd
>
>
>
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