[governance] Tangential (On Exceptionalism Wikileaks) America's vassal acts decisively and illegally

[Adam Peake]

Dominique, hi.


On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Dominique Lacroix <dl at panamo.eu> wrote:
> Rape? Charged?
>

Assange's lawyer's say accused.  But the european arrest warrant the
UK believes it must enforce says he is wanted for prosecution.  I'm
not a lawyer, not clue about the difference.


> 1. Assange is not (yet) charged. The judge only wants to ask him some
> questions. Telecom provide some means, indeed...
> 2. Rape? Perhaps some of us on this list, men AND women, are rapers at a
> Swedish sense:
>

I very much hope not.

Indecent assault isn't that common, is it?   As you note the offense
carries a maximum 4 year sentence.  Not trivial.


> "Under Swedish law, there are legal gradations of the definition of rape.
> There is the most serious kind, involving major violence.
> But below that there is the concept of 'regular rape', still involving
> violence but not violence of the utmost horror.
> And below that there is the idea of 'unlawful coercion'. Talking generally,
> and not about the Assange case, this might involve putting emotional
> pressure on someone.
>
> The three categories involve prison sentences of 10, six and four years
> respectively.
> The lawyer for the two women who have complained against Mr Assange will not
> spell out the details because he says that would give too much away to the
> accused man. But he does indicate that it is a four-year sentence that Mr
> Assange could expect, indicating that he is suspected of this third, less
> serious category."
>
> And the great conclusion is:
>
> "The attitude towards rape in Sweden - informed by a strong sense of women's
> rights - means that it is more likely to be reported to police.
> Some 53 rape offences are reported per 100,000 people, the highest rate in
> Europe.
> The figures may reflect a higher number of actual rapes committed but it
> seems more likely that tough attitudes and a broader definition of the crime
> are more significant factors."
>
> See: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11946652
>
> Isn't it a bit unbalanced, facing whistleblowers issue?
>
> Yes, Adam, CIA or not CIA, this case seems to me two Internet Governance
> issues.
> - Lawful here, unlawful there.
> - Whistleblowers right at the Digital age.
>
> How would you deal with these questions?
>


Sorry, don't get it, what has Assange's situation to do with Internet
governance, even in its broadest sense? He didn't do anything online
or on the Internet, he is accused of assaulting two women.  And those
two people seem to be being very much overlooked at the moment.

Adam


> @+, Dominique
>
> Dominique Lacroix
> Société européenne de l'Internet
> http://www.ies-france.eu
> +33 (0)6 63 24 39 14
>
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>
> Le 19/08/12 12:28, Fahd A. Batayneh a écrit :
>
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:24 AM, Ginger Paque <ginger at paque.net> wrote:
>>
>> I admire Assange. I am glad he has the courage to carry out his WikiLeaks
>> work. I don't think he should be persecuted, or face politically motivated
>> harassment or charge.
>> I don't think being a legitimate social hero allows him to avoid facing
>> charges of rape if the are legitimate.
>>
>> Ginger
>
>
> That makes us 2 Ginger. ROCK ON!
>
> Fahd
>
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