<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Under several national laws including ecuadorian and most latinamerican, There is not a case against Assange as under swedish law</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Carlos Vera</div><div><br>Enviado desde mi iPhone</div><div><br>El 19/08/2012, a las 6:19, Chaitanya Dhareshwar <<a href="mailto:chaitanyabd@gmail.com">chaitanyabd@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>So if you just look at someone funny you could be legally liable as per Swedish law? Just to clarify.</div><div> </div><div>-C<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Dominique Lacroix <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dl@panamo.eu" target="_blank">dl@panamo.eu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Rape? Charged?<br>
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1. Assange is not (yet) charged. The judge only wants to ask him
some questions. Telecom provide some means, indeed...<br>
2. Rape? Perhaps some of us on this list, men AND women, are
rapers at a Swedish sense:<br>
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<p><i>"Under Swedish law, there are legal gradations of the
definition of rape.<br>
There is the most serious kind, involving major violence.<br>
But below that there is the concept of 'regular rape', still
involving violence but not violence of the utmost horror.<br>
And below that there is the idea of 'unlawful coercion'.
Talking generally, and not about the Assange case, this might
involve <b>putting emotional pressure on someone</b>.</i></p>
<p><i>The three categories involve prison
sentences of <b>10, six and four years</b> respectively.<br>
<b>The lawyer for the two women</b> who have complained
against Mr Assange will not spell out the details because he
says that would give too much away to the accused man. But he
does indicate that it is a four-year sentence that Mr Assange
could expect, indicating that <b>he is suspected of this
third, less serious category</b>."<br>
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<p>And the great conclusion is:
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<p>"<i>The attitude towards rape in Sweden - informed by a strong
sense of women's rights - means that it is more likely to be
reported to police.<br>
Some 53 rape offences are reported per 100,000 people, the
highest rate in Europe.<br>
The figures may reflect a higher number of actual rapes
committed but it seems more likely that tough attitudes and a
broader definition of the crime are more significant factors.</i>"</p>
See: <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11946652" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11946652</a><br>
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Isn't it a bit unbalanced, facing whistleblowers issue?<br>
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Yes, Adam, CIA or not CIA, this case seems to me two Internet
Governance issues. <br>
- Lawful here, unlawful there.<br>
- Whistleblowers right at the Digital age.<br>
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How would you deal with these questions?<br>
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@+, Dominique<br>
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<pre cols="72">Dominique Lacroix
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Le 19/08/12 12:28, Fahd A. Batayneh a écrit :<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:24 AM, Ginger
Paque <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ginger@paque.net" target="_blank">ginger@paque.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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I admire Assange. I am glad he has the courage to carry out
his WikiLeaks work. I don't think he should be persecuted,
or face politically motivated harassment or charge.<br>
I don't think being a legitimate social hero allows him to
avoid facing charges of rape if the are legitimate.<br>
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<span><font color="#888888">Ginger</font></span></blockquote>
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<div>That makes us 2 Ginger. ROCK ON!</div>
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<div>Fahd </div>
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