[governance] New MAG announced

Fri Apr 27 13:29:21 EDT 2012

One of the interesting features of the OGP is that since CS has a formalized
role (including providing feedback on Government commitments) there is very
considerable pressure for CS to formalize/consolidate its involvement (speak
with one voice).  On the other side, one of the commitments in the OGP
declaration is towards government ensuring "participation" in the
formulation of the OGP commitments which means that there is the likelihood
of a degree of involvement by governments in the process of the formulation
of CS in relation to the OGP.

Conceptually and operationally there are a number of issues arising from
this but it is still very early days with the OGP and it will be interesting
to see how these are resolved--both at the global and particularly the
national levels.

M

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[mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Katitza
Rodriguez
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 10:02 AM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Marilia Maciel
Subject: Re: [governance] New MAG announced

There is one important comment. 

I'm not sure if the Secretariat believes that all civil society members need
to be an IGC member and report to the IGC nor if IGC list is consider the
mailing list for civil society. I infer this because there are civil society
in the MAG who are not in IGC nor put forward by IGC. I'm not arguing that
everyone should be here (I think that this hasn't been discussed). At the
same time, the Secretariat/UN composition of MAG is seems to be a fair one.
This is why I did not expect that everyone from civil society will
necessarily report to the IGC. They can report to their own members
according to this rule. Do we like this or not? That needs to be discussed.
It is a question that I believe it haven't been tackled (and it will help
MAG members knows their obligations) far beyond reporting to their own
members/groups. 

"All Advisory Group members serve in their personal capacity, 
         but are expected to have extensive linkages with their 
         respective stakeholder groups." 

On 4/27/12 5:40 PM, Marilia Maciel wrote: 

First of all, congratulations to all IGC members that have been selected,
through IGC Nomcom or by other means. I am also very comfortable a happy
with the choice.

Thanks, Mike, for bringing up the experience of the open government
partnership to our attention. It will be definitely interesting to follow
this experience of governmental/non-governmental cooperation more closely. 

Regarding this very important topic of keeping the flow of information
between MAG and IGC, I believe that both sides have shared responsibility to
make it happen. On the IGC side, it is important to provide timely feedback
when MAG members send information and ask the views of IGC members about a
given topic. On some occasions, I think that we failed to provide useful
feedback in a timely manner. So, a commitment from us to follow the
list/Skype/Twitter, at least during OC and MAG meetings is key, in my
opinion.

On the other hand, MAG representatives do need to find more efficient ways
to report back. Share tasks/topics among them is an option. Taking into
account the limitations like Chatam house Rules, the use of Skype and
Twitter should also be consider. It is a thin line between disclosing
enough/too much, but we should strive to find it. Also, sometimes we need to
push the boundaries a bit and try to make little steps towards improving
communication and transparency. The experience with CSTD WG (that began as a
more closed experiment than MAG) proved it is possible to do it in a
positive and respectful manner.

Moving beyond communication between MAG and IGC members, I think that CS
should also try to communicate better its views with the outside world. This
is part of outreach, as much as is part of the political process of dispute
of views in Internet governance. There are too few sources of information
about IG that have become references online. Of course, each CS organization
has its own medium of communication, but I think it would not hurt to
develop a more coordinated approach, cross-references, or maybe a shared
online space, that could even be in IGC website.

Best,
Marília 

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Roland Perry
<roland at internetpolicyagency.com> wrote:

In message <4F9AB305.3030201 at eff.org>, at 16:53:57 on Fri, 27 Apr 2012,
Katitza Rodriguez <katitza at eff.org> writes

>I think, what we haven't done, but may be it is an idea is to blog
>about the meetings as long as you do not attribute the names. It has
>been working very well in CSTD as long as it is without names. May be
>this is something that might help inform the discussion and solve the
>reporting problem?. Of course, I do understand that many people won't
>have the time but many others may?

Blogging also has the problem that you might be revealing your thoughts
to people outside of your tight stakeholder group.

But anyone without the time to "report back" (in whatever form we deem
appropriate) doesn't seem to me to be qualified to be one of the
members.

       "All Advisory Group members serve in their personal capacity,
       but are expected to have extensive linkages with their
       respective stakeholder groups."

'Extensive' is a very strong word.
--
Roland Perry

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