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<DIV dir=ltr lang=en-us class=OutlookMessageHeader align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=240362217-27042012><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>One of the interesting features of the OGP is that since CS
has a formalized role (including providing feedback on Government
commitments) there is very considerable pressure for CS to
formalize/consolidate its involvement (speak with one voice). On the
other side, one of the commitments in the OGP declaration is towards
government ensuring "participation" in the formulation of the OGP
commitments which means that there is the likelihood of a degree of
involvement by governments in the process of the formulation of CS in
relation to the OGP.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial>Conceptually and operationally there are a number of issues
arising from this but it is still very early days with the OGP and it
will be interesting to see how these are resolved--both at the global
and particularly the national levels.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=240362217-27042012> </SPAN>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org
[mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Katitza
Rodriguez<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 27, 2012 10:02 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
governance@lists.igcaucus.org; Marilia Maciel<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[governance] New MAG announced<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>There is one
important comment. <BR><BR>I'm not sure if the Secretariat believes that all
civil society members need to be an IGC member and report to the IGC nor if
IGC list is consider the mailing list for civil society. I infer this because
there are civil society in the MAG who are not in IGC nor put forward by IGC.
I'm not arguing that everyone should be here (I think that this hasn't been
discussed). At the same time, the Secretariat/UN composition of MAG is seems
to be a fair one. This is why I did not expect that everyone from civil
society will necessarily report to the IGC. They can report to their own
members according to this rule. Do we like this or not? That needs to be
discussed. It is a question that I believe it haven't been tackled (and it
will help MAG members knows their obligations) far beyond reporting to their
own members/groups. <BR><BR>"All Advisory Group members serve in their
personal capacity, <BR> but
are expected to have extensive linkages with their
<BR> respective stakeholder
groups." <BR><BR>On 4/27/12 5:40 PM, Marilia Maciel wrote:
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<DIV class=gmail_extra>First of all, congratulations to all IGC members that
have been selected, through IGC Nomcom or by other means. I am also very
comfortable a happy with the choice.</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_extra><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_extra>Thanks, Mike, for bringing up the experience of the
open government partnership to our attention. It will be definitely
interesting to follow this experience of governmental/non-governmental
cooperation more closely. </DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_extra><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_extra>Regarding this very important topic of keeping the
flow of information between MAG and IGC, I believe that both sides have
shared responsibility to make it happen. On the IGC side, it is important to
provide timely feedback when MAG members send information and ask the views
of IGC members about a given topic. On some occasions, I think that we
failed to provide useful feedback in a timely manner. So, a commitment from
us to follow the list/Skype/Twitter, at least during OC and MAG meetings is
key, in my opinion.</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_extra><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_extra>On the other hand, MAG representatives do need to
find more efficient ways to report back. Share tasks/topics among them is an
option. Taking into account the limitations like Chatam house Rules, the use
of Skype and Twitter should also be consider. It is a thin line between
disclosing enough/too much, but we should strive to find it. Also, sometimes
we need to push the boundaries a bit and try to make little steps towards
improving communication and transparency. The experience with CSTD WG (that
began as a more closed experiment than MAG) proved it is possible to do it
in a positive and respectful manner.</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_extra><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_extra>Moving beyond communication between MAG and IGC
members, I think that CS should also try to communicate better its views
with the outside world. This is part of outreach, as much as is part of the
political process of dispute of views in Internet governance. There are too
few sources of information about IG that have become references online. Of
course, each CS organization has its own medium of communication, but I
think it would not hurt to develop a more coordinated approach,
cross-references, or maybe a shared online space, that could even be in IGC
website.</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_extra>Best,</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_extra>Marília </DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_extra><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Roland Perry <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:roland@internetpolicyagency.com" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">roland@internetpolicyagency.com</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>In message <<A href="mailto:4F9AB305.3030201@eff.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">4F9AB305.3030201@eff.org</A>>, at 16:53:57 on
Fri, 27 Apr 2012,<BR>Katitza Rodriguez <<A
href="mailto:katitza@eff.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">katitza@eff.org</A>> writes<BR>
<DIV class=im>>I think, what we haven't done, but may be it is an idea
is to blog<BR>>about the meetings as long as you do not attribute the
names. It has<BR>>been working very well in CSTD as long as it is
without names. May be<BR>>this is something that might help inform the
discussion and solve the<BR>>reporting problem?. Of course, I do
understand that many people won't<BR>>have the time but many others
may?<BR><BR></DIV>Blogging also has the problem that you might be
revealing your thoughts<BR>to people outside of your tight stakeholder
group.<BR><BR>But anyone without the time to "report back" (in whatever
form we deem<BR>appropriate) doesn't seem to me to be qualified to be one
of the<BR>members.<BR>
<DIV class=im> "All Advisory Group members serve
in their personal capacity,<BR> but are expected
to have extensive linkages with their<BR>
respective stakeholder groups."<BR><BR></DIV>'Extensive' is a very
strong word.<BR><SPAN class=HOEnZb><FONT color=#888888>--<BR>Roland
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