[governance] New MAG announced

Fri Apr 27 13:02:03 EDT 2012

There is one important comment.

I'm not sure if the Secretariat believes that all civil society members 
need to be an IGC member and report to the IGC nor if IGC list is 
consider the mailing list for civil society. I infer this because there 
are civil society in the MAG who are not in IGC nor put forward by IGC. 
I'm not arguing that everyone should be here (I think that this hasn't 
been discussed). At the same time, the Secretariat/UN composition of MAG 
is seems to be a fair one.  This is why I did not expect that everyone 
from civil society will necessarily report to the IGC. They can report 
to their own members according to this rule. Do we like this or not? 
That needs to be discussed. It is a question that I believe it haven't 
been tackled (and it will help MAG members knows their obligations) far 
beyond reporting to their own members/groups.

"All Advisory Group members serve in their personal capacity,
          but are expected to have extensive linkages with their
          respective stakeholder groups."

On 4/27/12 5:40 PM, Marilia Maciel wrote:
> First of all, congratulations to all IGC members that have been 
> selected, through IGC Nomcom or by other means. I am also very 
> comfortable a happy with the choice.
>
> Thanks, Mike, for bringing up the experience of the open government 
> partnership to our attention. It will be definitely interesting to 
> follow this experience of governmental/non-governmental cooperation 
> more closely.
>
> Regarding this very important topic of keeping the flow of information 
> between MAG and IGC, I believe that both sides have shared 
> responsibility to make it happen. On the IGC side, it is important to 
> provide timely feedback when MAG members send information and ask the 
> views of IGC members about a given topic. On some occasions, I think 
> that we failed to provide useful feedback in a timely manner. So, a 
> commitment from us to follow the list/Skype/Twitter, at least during 
> OC and MAG meetings is key, in my opinion.
>
> On the other hand, MAG representatives do need to find more efficient 
> ways to report back. Share tasks/topics among them is an option. 
> Taking into account the limitations like Chatam house Rules, the use 
> of Skype and Twitter should also be consider. It is a thin line 
> between disclosing enough/too much, but we should strive to find it. 
> Also, sometimes we need to push the boundaries a bit and try to make 
> little steps towards improving communication and transparency. The 
> experience with CSTD WG (that began as a more closed experiment than 
> MAG) proved it is possible to do it in a positive and respectful manner.
>
> Moving beyond communication between MAG and IGC members, I think that 
> CS should also try to communicate better its views with the outside 
> world. This is part of outreach, as much as is part of the political 
> process of dispute of views in Internet governance. There are too few 
> sources of information about IG that have become references online. Of 
> course, each CS organization has its own medium of communication, but 
> I think it would not hurt to develop a more coordinated approach, 
> cross-references, or maybe a shared online space, that could even be 
> in IGC website.
>
> Best,
> Marília
>
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Roland Perry 
> <roland at internetpolicyagency.com 
> <mailto:roland at internetpolicyagency.com>> wrote:
>
>     In message <4F9AB305.3030201 at eff.org
>     <mailto:4F9AB305.3030201 at eff.org>>, at 16:53:57 on Fri, 27 Apr 2012,
>     Katitza Rodriguez <katitza at eff.org <mailto:katitza at eff.org>> writes
>     >I think, what we haven't done, but may be it is an idea is to blog
>     >about the meetings as long as you do not attribute the names. It has
>     >been working very well in CSTD as long as it is without names. May be
>     >this is something that might help inform the discussion and solve the
>     >reporting problem?. Of course, I do understand that many people won't
>     >have the time but many others may?
>
>     Blogging also has the problem that you might be revealing your
>     thoughts
>     to people outside of your tight stakeholder group.
>
>     But anyone without the time to "report back" (in whatever form we deem
>     appropriate) doesn't seem to me to be qualified to be one of the
>     members.
>            "All Advisory Group members serve in their personal capacity,
>            but are expected to have extensive linkages with their
>            respective stakeholder groups."
>
>     'Extensive' is a very strong word.
>     --
>     Roland Perry
>
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