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There is one important comment. <br>
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I'm not sure if the Secretariat believes that all civil society
members need to be an IGC member and report to the IGC nor if IGC
list is consider the mailing list for civil society. I infer this
because there are civil society in the MAG who are not in IGC nor
put forward by IGC. I'm not arguing that everyone should be here (I
think that this hasn't been discussed). At the same time, the
Secretariat/UN composition of MAG is seems to be a fair one. This
is why I did not expect that everyone from civil society will
necessarily report to the IGC. They can report to their own members
according to this rule. Do we like this or not? That needs to be
discussed. It is a question that I believe it haven't been tackled
(and it will help MAG members knows their obligations) far beyond
reporting to their own members/groups. <br>
<br>
"All Advisory Group members serve in their personal capacity,
<br>
but are expected to have extensive linkages with their
<br>
respective stakeholder groups."
<br>
<br>
On 4/27/12 5:40 PM, Marilia Maciel wrote:
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cite="mid:CACpVkK0CTidd=n83xPv78_-aqdOaUFVb9Jr=mnkCrAGd6nsogw@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div class="gmail_extra">First of all, congratulations to all IGC
members that have been selected, through IGC Nomcom or by other
means. I am also very comfortable a happy with the choice.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Thanks, Mike, for bringing up the
experience of the open government partnership to our attention.
It will be definitely interesting to follow this experience of
governmental/non-governmental cooperation more closely. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Regarding this very important topic of
keeping the flow of information between MAG and IGC, I believe
that both sides have shared responsibility to make it happen. On
the IGC side, it is important to provide timely feedback when
MAG members send information and ask the views of IGC members
about a given topic. On some occasions, I think that we failed
to provide useful feedback in a timely manner. So, a commitment
from us to follow the list/Skype/Twitter, at least during OC and
MAG meetings is key, in my opinion.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">On the other hand, MAG representatives do
need to find more efficient ways to report back. Share
tasks/topics among them is an option. Taking into account the
limitations like Chatam house Rules, the use of Skype and
Twitter should also be consider. It is a thin line between
disclosing enough/too much, but we should strive to find it.
Also, sometimes we need to push the boundaries a bit and try to
make little steps towards improving communication and
transparency. The experience with CSTD WG (that began as a more
closed experiment than MAG) proved it is possible to do it in a
positive and respectful manner.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Moving beyond communication between MAG
and IGC members, I think that CS should also try to communicate
better its views with the outside world. This is part of
outreach, as much as is part of the political process of dispute
of views in Internet governance. There are too few sources of
information about IG that have become references online. Of
course, each CS organization has its own medium of
communication, but I think it would not hurt to develop a more
coordinated approach, cross-references, or maybe a shared online
space, that could even be in IGC website.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Marília </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:15 PM,
Roland Perry <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:roland@internetpolicyagency.com"
target="_blank">roland@internetpolicyagency.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:4F9AB305.3030201@eff.org">4F9AB305.3030201@eff.org</a>>,
at 16:53:57 on Fri, 27 Apr 2012,<br>
Katitza Rodriguez <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:katitza@eff.org">katitza@eff.org</a>>
writes<br>
<div class="im">>I think, what we haven't done, but may
be it is an idea is to blog<br>
>about the meetings as long as you do not attribute the
names. It has<br>
>been working very well in CSTD as long as it is
without names. May be<br>
>this is something that might help inform the
discussion and solve the<br>
>reporting problem?. Of course, I do understand that
many people won't<br>
>have the time but many others may?<br>
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Blogging also has the problem that you might be revealing
your thoughts<br>
to people outside of your tight stakeholder group.<br>
<br>
But anyone without the time to "report back" (in whatever
form we deem<br>
appropriate) doesn't seem to me to be qualified to be one of
the<br>
members.<br>
<div class="im"> "All Advisory Group members serve in
their personal capacity,<br>
but are expected to have extensive linkages with
their<br>
respective stakeholder groups."<br>
<br>
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'Extensive' is a very strong word.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">--<br>
Roland Perry<br>
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