[governance] Re: Syria

Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com
Mon Oct 10 00:59:48 EDT 2011 

Precisely why it is imperative that global civil society must be seen to
take a stance.

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:57 PM, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
> <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I discovered an interesting Blog by a Professor who specialises in Middle
> > East Studies on the failed Resolution:
> >
> http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=12401&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Syriacomment+%28Syria+Comment%29
>
>
> To me this is more evidence that Bill is correct that
> intergovernmental-ism is not the way forward in IG, and that CS
> (including the IGC) should resist at every opportunity.
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
>
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
> > <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> More interesting developments in Syria as countries are warned by the
> >> Syrian Government:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/world/middleeast/syria-warns-countries-not-to-recognize-opposition.html?_r=2&smid=tw-nytimes&seid=auto
> >> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 11:49 PM, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Andrea
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 9, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Andrea Glorioso wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Bill,
> >>> >
> >>> > but doesn't this kind of horse trading already take place anyway, now
> >>> > that the Internet is seen as a strategic component of geopolitical
> >>> > strategies by the "heavy weights" (and increasingly, by mid- and
> light
> >>> > weights, too)?
> >>>
> >>> Not sure, I guess it would depend how we specify what we're talking
> >>> about.  Can you give me examples of governments engaging in
> geopolitical
> >>> horse trading across distinct issue-areas in ways that have impacted
> global
> >>> IG, like votes on sanctions or agricultural trade or whatever being
> traded
> >>> for votes on Internet names, numbers, standards, etc?  And whether or
> not we
> >>> can identify some, the next question is, would centralizing global IG
> under
> >>> a UN intergovernmental body increase the propensity to engage in this,
> >>> reduce it, or have no impact either way?  I believe it would increase
> it
> >>> significantly, but would be interested in hearing the counter-argument.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Bill
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On 10/9/11, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> wrote:
> >>> >> On Oct 9, 2011, at 3:40 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> Also see the abstentions when reading the failed resolution and it
> is
> >>> >>> the
> >>> >>> message that it sends which is far more pronounced and profound.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> including Brazil, India, and South Africa, which also opposed UN
> >>> >> sanctions
> >>> >> on Iran's "peaceful nuclear program" when the government there was
> >>> >> busy
> >>> >> hunting down and executing protesters.  But want a new UN body to
> >>> >> develop
> >>> >> global Internet policies and "integrate and oversee the bodies
> >>> >> responsible
> >>> >> for technical and operational functioning of the Internet, including
> >>> >> global
> >>> >> standards setting."  Then we can have intergovernmental horse
> trading
> >>> >> over
> >>> >> all aspects of global IG with Russia, China, et al linking voting
> >>> >> deals on
> >>> >> issues like their proposed code of conduct for acceptable Internet
> >>> >> speech,
> >>> >> TLDs, address assignments, standards, etc. to deals on sanctions and
> >>> >> other
> >>> >> geopolitical items.  That should help ensure a stable and open
> >>> >> Internet…
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Bill
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